Ideal Gases


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Ideal Gases

Postby Jessica Helfond 2F » Fri Jan 11, 2019 7:33 pm

How do we know if a gas is ideal? Do we just assume it is in most scenarios?

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Re: Ideal Gases

Postby Maya_Peterson1C » Fri Jan 11, 2019 8:49 pm

I believe the general assumption is that a gas acts more "ideal" at higher temperatures and at lower pressures. I think most of the problems we will be given deal with ideal gases unless otherwise stated.

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Re: Ideal Gases

Postby Chem_Mod » Fri Jan 11, 2019 11:49 pm

In reality, no gas is ideal. An ideal gas is a theoretical gas which we give certain properties which allows us to simplify calculations. We can use these calculations as well as correction factors to make calculations about real gases. The ideal gas law is used to make calculations about ideal gasses. The Van der Waals equation uses correction factors to account for the "un-idealness" of gasses.

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Re: Ideal Gases

Postby Bruce Chen 2H » Sun Jan 13, 2019 3:33 pm

An ideal gas is a theoretical idea that the gas is in a simple form so that it allows for easier calculation. I think most problems that we are given will only consist of ideal gases.

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Re: Ideal Gases

Postby Eva Zhao 4I » Thu Jan 09, 2020 9:25 pm

As others have mentioned, an ideal gas is theoretical. Most gases do behave closer to ideal with high temperature and low pressure, however. For most problems, unless stated otherwise, ideal gases should be the ones involved such that we can simplify calculations and use i.e. PV=nRT (ideal gas law).

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Re: Ideal Gases

Postby RobertXu_2J » Fri Jan 10, 2020 1:46 am

I do not think a perfectly ideal gas exists, but because the difference is negligible at higher temperatures, we just assume that they are so, to make calculations easier.

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Re: Ideal Gases

Postby 605395381 » Fri Jan 10, 2020 2:29 am

Although gases are never perfectly "ideal". We assume most of the time that gases are ideal because at higher temperature and lower pressure there are not a significant intermolecular forces between the gas molecules. This assumption allows for calculations of other properties of the gases.

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Re: Ideal Gases

Postby Justin Quan 4I » Fri Jan 10, 2020 8:35 am

To add on, generally the rule is that a gas behaves more like an ideal gas at higher temperature and lower pressure. This is because under these conditions, the gas molecules will have little to no intermolecular forces with each other.


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