OH and H3O


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OH and H3O

Postby kanikubari » Sun Jan 20, 2019 10:36 pm

So is the general rule of thumb is that OH- and H3O+ determines whether it's an acid or base? Is there any other way of telling? Also how do you know if it's a strong acid or weak and same goes for base?

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Re: OH and H3O

Postby jessicahe4Elavelle » Sun Jan 20, 2019 10:39 pm

To distinguish weak acids from strong acids you should just essentially memorize the list of strong acids (they are 7 in total HCl - hydrochloric acid, HNO3 - nitric acid, H2SO4 - sulfuric acid, HBr - hydrobromic acid, HI - hydroiodic acid, HClO4 - perchloric acid and HClO3 - chloric acid). The strong bases instead always have an -OH

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Re: OH and H3O

Postby 404975170 » Sun Jan 20, 2019 11:00 pm

When looking at a recation, if the number of hydrogens has decreased when going from reactants to products then the substance is an acid (donates hydrogen ions). If the number of hydrogens increases from reactants to products then that substance is the base (accepts hydrogen ions).

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Re: OH and H3O

Postby Adrienne_4F » Tue Jan 22, 2019 5:24 pm

When you have an acid reacting with water, you'll result in H3O+ because the atom donates an H to water. With bases, you'll get OH- because that atom will take an H from water.

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Re: OH and H3O

Postby Neil Hsu 2A » Wed Jan 23, 2019 1:32 am

There are many ways to determine if something is acidic or basic. One way is definitely to write out its reaction with water and see if it creates H3O+ or OH-. Another way can be to look at its Ka or Kb. The larger the Ka, the stronger the acid; the larger the Kb, the stronger the base. On the flip side, the smaller the pKa, the stronger the acid; the smaller the pKb, the stronger the base. For strong acids and bases, I suggest just memorizing them. Strong Acids: HCl, HI, HBr, HNO3, H2SO4, HClO4, HClO3. Strong Bases: Group 1 and 2 oxides and hydroxides.

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Re: OH and H3O

Postby Tony Chung 2I » Wed Jan 23, 2019 3:37 pm

You should also memorize the strong acids and bases that we had to use in 14A

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Re: OH and H3O

Postby Sarah Fatkin 4I » Wed Jan 23, 2019 4:14 pm

Yes, OH- and H3O+ do indicate whether something is an acid or a base. This is because OH- is formed when bases are combined with water and H3O+ is formed when acids are combined with water. It might be helpful to draw out the lewis structures of these reactions so that you can visualize the proton donors / acceptors.

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Re: OH and H3O

Postby Vana Mirzakhani 3I » Sat Jan 26, 2019 8:05 pm

Simply put, anything with OH- is a base and anything with H30+ or H+ is an acid.

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Re: OH and H3O

Postby yuetao4k » Sat Jan 26, 2019 8:29 pm

You can calculate pH and pOH from [H30+] and [OH-] respectively by taking the negative log of the concentrations. This will indicate if the chemical compound is an acid or base.

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Re: OH and H3O

Postby David Effio 1H » Sun Jan 27, 2019 12:09 am

Calculating the pH and pOH from their concentrations is the easiest way to tell if an acid or base is strong or weak. pH of around 1 or lower is usually a strong acid, while 13 or higher is a strong base. Memorizing the list of the most common strong acids is a great plan too.
It's also worth noting that some acids are polyprotic, and this brings forth different pKa and pkB values. It's also a good idea to memorize the general properties of strong acids or bases, as well as weak acids or bases.

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Re: OH and H3O

Postby jocelyntzeng » Sat Mar 16, 2019 1:05 pm

from OH and H3O concentrations you can determine which one is in excess and that determines if it is a acid or base


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