PV=nRT equation manipulation


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PV=nRT equation manipulation

Postby Matt Sanruk 2H » Wed Jan 08, 2020 9:13 pm

What was the purpose of changing the equation to equal P or the concentration? Will this be further manipulated when we deal with equilibrium?

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Re: PV=nRT equation manipulation

Postby Anisha Chandra 1K » Wed Jan 08, 2020 9:15 pm

If you manipulate the equation to solve for P or concentration, then you can use the resulting pressure or concentration in when calculating Kc (concentration) or Kp (pressure).

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Re: PV=nRT equation manipulation

Postby ELu 1J » Wed Jan 08, 2020 9:16 pm

I think the purpose is just based on the context of the problem. The problem could give the initial concentration of a gas but then ask you to find the partial pressure at equilibrium or something that requires you to be able to convert one to another when the substance is a gas.

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Re: PV=nRT equation manipulation

Postby Qiu Ya Wu 4I » Wed Jan 08, 2020 9:16 pm

We move elements of the equation around to solve for P and the concentration so we can convert the partial pressure of a gas to its concentration. Being able to do so will be helpful when we deal with heterogenous equilibria.

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Re: PV=nRT equation manipulation

Postby Callum Guo 1H » Wed Jan 08, 2020 10:33 pm

You can change the equation around so that you can find the pressure of elements which helps you find the equilibrium for gases

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Re: PV=nRT equation manipulation

Postby Matt Sanruk 2H » Fri Jan 10, 2020 12:35 am

Ok I see, but there won't be any problems that give both concentration and pressure for different elements right?

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Re: PV=nRT equation manipulation

Postby andrewcj 2C » Fri Jan 10, 2020 1:16 am

If there were, would that be a problem? Assuming the gas constant R was given in the correct units and the temperature was specified, I would think there would be enough information to solve a problem even if both partial pressures and concentrations were part of the information provided.

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Re: PV=nRT equation manipulation

Postby RobertXu_2J » Fri Jan 10, 2020 1:41 am

We are manipulating the equation so that we can calculate the value that we want. For example, if we wanted concentration, which is n/V, we would move it to one side and everything else on the other side.

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Re: PV=nRT equation manipulation

Postby Angela Prince 1J » Fri Jan 10, 2020 4:32 pm

Matt Sanruk 2H wrote:Ok I see, but there won't be any problems that give both concentration and pressure for different elements right?


manipulating the ideal gas law equation gives us a way to convert either partial pressure to concentration or vice versa. so, even if a problem provides values both ways, we should be able to convert them all to the same units.

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Re: PV=nRT equation manipulation

Postby Matt Sanruk 2H » Wed Jan 15, 2020 11:00 pm

Oh, I see this manipulation can come in handy whenever we are given these circumstances thanks.

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Re: PV=nRT equation manipulation

Postby Nicholas_Gladkov_2J » Thu Jan 16, 2020 5:04 pm

Matt Sanruk 2H wrote:What was the purpose of changing the equation to equal P or the concentration? Will this be further manipulated when we deal with equilibrium?


The purpose of manipulating PV=nRT is purely to acquire the information that is asked for in the problem, as well as to understand certain concepts. Solving for concentration (n/V) can help understand how changing temperature has on that concentration.

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Re: PV=nRT equation manipulation

Postby smurphy1D » Fri Jan 17, 2020 1:01 pm

Is R a constant in every equation? Or does it differ depending on the chemical equation ?

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Re: PV=nRT equation manipulation

Postby gabbymaraziti » Fri Jan 17, 2020 3:20 pm

Manipulating the PV=nRT is helpful because P gives the partial pressure of gases, which we can use when the problem provides us only with molar concentrations.

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Re: PV=nRT equation manipulation

Postby Matt Sanruk 2H » Mon Jan 20, 2020 8:03 pm

smurphy1D wrote:Is R a constant in every equation? Or does it differ depending on the chemical equation ?
yes I believe it is a constant but I do not know the number since it is in bar not atm


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