When does the Ideal Gas Law Fail?


Moderators: Chem_Mod, Chem_Admin

Jose Robles 1D
Posts: 100
Joined: Fri Aug 02, 2019 12:15 am

When does the Ideal Gas Law Fail?

Postby Jose Robles 1D » Sun Jan 19, 2020 7:24 pm

What circumstances cause this equation to no longer produce reliable answers or have proper use?

Aiden Metzner 2C
Posts: 104
Joined: Wed Sep 18, 2019 12:21 am

Re: When does the Ideal Gas Law Fail?

Postby Aiden Metzner 2C » Sun Jan 19, 2020 7:36 pm

It fails at low temperatures and higher pressures because intermolecular forces become important, it also fails with heavy gases.

005324438
Posts: 51
Joined: Sat Aug 24, 2019 12:16 am

Re: When does the Ideal Gas Law Fail?

Postby 005324438 » Sun Jan 19, 2020 7:42 pm

The ideal gas law takes into account many assumptions. The most important ones are all collisions are elastic, the molecules themselves don't take up space, and there is no interaction between gas particles except for collisions. These assumptions work best at low pressure and at high temperatures. This means the ideal gas law fails at extremely high pressure and extremely low temperatures. The high pressure forces the particles together, and the low temperature caused the particles to slow down. These both cause the particles to interact without touching, decreasing the effectiveness of the ideal gas law.

Angus Wu_4G
Posts: 102
Joined: Fri Aug 02, 2019 12:15 am

Re: When does the Ideal Gas Law Fail?

Postby Angus Wu_4G » Sun Jan 19, 2020 9:22 pm

The ideal gas law fails when the temperature is extremely low and when the pressure is extremely high. When the ideal gas law fails, you can no longer use the ideal gas law equation, you need to use the Van Der Waals Equation, which is quite a bit more complicated than the ideal gas law equation.

Diana A 2L
Posts: 106
Joined: Sat Aug 17, 2019 12:16 am
Been upvoted: 1 time

Re: When does the Ideal Gas Law Fail?

Postby Diana A 2L » Sun Jan 19, 2020 11:47 pm

Does the Ideal Gas Law only apply to scenarios in Standard Temperature and Pressure? (STP) Or can approximations still be made using the Ideal Gas Law Equation with other temperatures within a close range?

Leila_4G
Posts: 114
Joined: Sat Sep 14, 2019 12:17 am

Re: When does the Ideal Gas Law Fail?

Postby Leila_4G » Thu Jan 23, 2020 7:30 pm

When it fails, how much does it differ than it is supposed to?

Leila_4G
Posts: 114
Joined: Sat Sep 14, 2019 12:17 am

Re: When does the Ideal Gas Law Fail?

Postby Leila_4G » Thu Jan 23, 2020 7:31 pm

Also, how often do the circumstances exist when it fails?

Sean Cheah 1E
Posts: 105
Joined: Wed Sep 18, 2019 12:20 am

Re: When does the Ideal Gas Law Fail?

Postby Sean Cheah 1E » Fri Jan 24, 2020 9:36 am

The Van der Waals equation modifies the Ideal Gas Law slightly to better predict the behavior of real gases, taking intermolecular forces and volume taken up by gas molecules into account. It's really interesting to see how this was done but for the purposes of this course it should be safe to assume that all gases are ideal.


Return to “Ideal Gases”

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 2 guests