Kc vs. Kp


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Kc vs. Kp

Postby Shannon Moore 2L » Sat Jan 16, 2021 3:58 pm

Do we solve for Kp in the same way that we solve for Kc? Do we need to convert between pressure and concentration if the equation is all gases?

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Re: Kc vs. Kp

Postby Ryan Laureano 3I » Sat Jan 16, 2021 4:02 pm

You solve Kp the same way as Kc. If you wanted to convert between Kc and Kp you use Kp=Kc(RT)^(change in moles). You don't need to convert because kp uses partial pressures.

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Re: Kc vs. Kp

Postby Astha Sahoo 3I » Sat Jan 16, 2021 4:24 pm

Yes! Like the other person above, you can change the PV = nRT, with n/V = [], to convert between the two. If you are switching between the two make sure to be careful because it's easy to make mistakes.

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Re: Kc vs. Kp

Postby Eliana Witham 2H » Sat Jan 16, 2021 5:20 pm

Also, if you are given gas concentrations instead of partial pressures, it is ok to find Kc unless the problem states otherwise.

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Re: Kc vs. Kp

Postby Raashi Chaudhari 3B » Sat Jan 16, 2021 6:10 pm

Hi!
To solve for Kc and Kp, it is the same set up of having products/reactants. The only difference is Kc uses the concentrations of the products over the concentrations of the reactants; while Kp uses the Pressure of the products over the pressure of the reactants. The same rules also follow with the stoichiometric coefficients; they are what the respective thing is raised to the power of.
Hope this helped.

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Re: Kc vs. Kp

Postby Shruti Kulkarni 2I » Sat Jan 16, 2021 6:12 pm

You're right that solving for Kc and Kp is the same. Kp uses partial pressures while Kc uses concentrations. If you want to convert between the pressure to the concentration you can use PV = nRT, as n/V is concentration.

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Re: Kc vs. Kp

Postby Kayla Booker 1F » Sat Jan 16, 2021 6:24 pm

Yes, you solve for Kp the same thing way as Kc

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Re: Kc vs. Kp

Postby MCalcagnie_ 1D » Sat Jan 16, 2021 7:35 pm

Kc and Kp are solved the same way, They are just denoted differently: Kc for concentration and Kp for pressure.

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Re: Kc vs. Kp

Postby Krish_Ajmani_3J » Sun Jan 17, 2021 10:20 am

The only distinction between Kp is that it is uses partial pressures. Kc and Kp are, however, both calculated the same way. The species in the problems (gases or aqueous species) should help you determine which to use.

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Re: Kc vs. Kp

Postby Brian_Wu_3B » Sun Jan 17, 2021 11:54 am

Kp is calculated the same way as kc.

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Re: Kc vs. Kp

Postby Chudi Onyedika 3A » Sun Jan 17, 2021 1:54 pm

Yes, they are calculated the same way. You do not need to convert unless it is requested.

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Re: Kc vs. Kp

Postby Keon Amirazodi 3H » Sun Jan 17, 2021 6:31 pm

Yes, you do.

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Re: Kc vs. Kp

Postby Mehreen 3I » Sun Jan 17, 2021 6:39 pm

Kp can Kc are calculated the same way! Kc is just for concentrations (molarity) and Kp is for partial pressures with gases (atm or bars).

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Re: Kc vs. Kp

Postby Jared Limqueco 3E » Sun Jan 17, 2021 8:27 pm

Kc and Kp are calculated pretty much the same, the only difference you need to know is Kp is used for pressure.

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Re: Kc vs. Kp

Postby kristinalaudis3e » Sun Jan 17, 2021 11:38 pm

Kc and Kp are calculated in the same way and both can be used for gases, but the only difference is that one is for partial pressures and one is for concentration. for whichever version you choose, make sure youre consistent with it the whole way through!

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Re: Kc vs. Kp

Postby Brianna Chen 3F » Wed Feb 03, 2021 10:06 pm

Yes, they are solved the same way in which it is products over reactants! There is a formula that others have listed above if you want to convert from Kc to Kp or vice versa, but I like to look at the units provided to determine which one we should be solving for.

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Re: Kc vs. Kp

Postby Ivy Tan 1E » Wed Feb 03, 2021 11:21 pm

Hi!
Yes, Kc and Kp are solved using the same formula. The only difference is that for Kp, you use the partial pressures for each gas and for Kc, you use the concentrations of each substance.

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Re: Kc vs. Kp

Postby Adam Bustamante 1I » Fri Feb 05, 2021 9:04 am

Kc and Kp are solved the same way! Kc is for concentration whereas Kp is for pressure, but both can be solved for using the setup: [products]/[reactants].

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Re: Kc vs. Kp

Postby Namita Shyam 3G » Sat Feb 06, 2021 7:11 pm

Yep, Kc and Kp are solved the exact same way (products to the power of their coefficients over reactants to the power of their coefficients). For Kp, you just need to make sure that everything is in partial pressures, and for Kc, everything is in molar concentration. Also, don't include solids and liquids when your calculating!

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Re: Kc vs. Kp

Postby Joanne Yuh 3I » Sat Feb 06, 2021 7:13 pm

You solve Kc and Kp the same way. You mostly only convert the concentration to pressure or pressure to concentration if the problem asks you to or there is an inconsistency in the units.
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Re: Kc vs. Kp

Postby Michelle Nguyen 3F » Sat Feb 06, 2021 7:13 pm

Yes, you solve for Kc and Kp in the same way! Kc is for concentrations and Kp is for partial pressures. In terms of conversion, sometimes it would be helpful to use the Ideal Gas Law!

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Re: Kc vs. Kp

Postby Bai Rong Lin 2K » Sat Feb 06, 2021 10:53 pm

They are calculated the same way!

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Re: Kc vs. Kp

Postby Nayra Gharpetian 3F » Sat Feb 06, 2021 10:59 pm

yes we solve for kc the same way we solve for kp! :)

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Re: Kc vs. Kp

Postby Kaili Valenzuela 2B » Sat Feb 06, 2021 11:05 pm

Yes Kp is calculated the same Kc is!

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Re: Kc vs. Kp

Postby Kathy_Li_1H » Sun Feb 07, 2021 12:13 pm

Hi! Yes, we solve both the same way.

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Re: Kc vs. Kp

Postby derickngo3d » Sun Feb 07, 2021 12:29 pm

for Kc or Kp, the values should all be concentrations or partial pressures, respectively.

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Re: Kc vs. Kp

Postby Kylie Joe 2A » Sun Feb 07, 2021 1:54 pm

Both Kc and Kp are solved in the same way, they just involve different states

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Re: Kc vs. Kp

Postby aashmi_agrawal_3d » Sat Feb 20, 2021 9:52 pm

Kc and Kp are solved for the same way.

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Re: Kc vs. Kp

Postby Sabrina Galvan 3J » Sat Feb 20, 2021 10:16 pm

They are calculated similar to one another, and one can be used to convert to the other using the PV = nRT formula.

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Re: Kc vs. Kp

Postby Lizbeth Garcia 1F » Sat Feb 20, 2021 10:17 pm

They are solved the same way, but, if given the information of one and the answer desires the other, you just have to convert.

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Re: Kc vs. Kp

Postby Anna Yang 1A » Sat Feb 20, 2021 10:31 pm

Both are equilibrium constants and calculated the same way.

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Re: Kc vs. Kp

Postby Jacob Schwarz-Discussion 3I » Thu Feb 25, 2021 4:17 pm

Kc and Kp are solved for in the exact same way. Kc uses the concentrations whereas Kp uses the pressures(make sure all the pressures have the same units(ex:atm,barr,etc.)

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Re: Kc vs. Kp

Postby Jose Miguel Conste 3H » Mon Mar 08, 2021 12:57 am

i believe any type of K is solved the same way

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Re: Kc vs. Kp

Postby Nicole Weinstein 3E » Wed Jan 05, 2022 7:48 am

Kc and Kp are solved the same way! Kc refers to concentrations or molarity, and Kp uses partial pressure values. Both find the equilibrium constant and the one you are trying to identify depends on the numbers you're given in their respective units.

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Re: Kc vs. Kp

Postby 105743571 » Wed Jan 05, 2022 8:53 am

Yes, you use the same equation and idea. If you want to convert molar concentration to partial pressure or the other way around, use the Ideal gas equation (PV = nRT)

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Re: Kc vs. Kp

Postby Helen Ringley 2E » Wed Jan 05, 2022 8:57 am

Yes! You use the same equation, its just different associated units.

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Re: Kc vs. Kp

Postby Joellen 1B » Wed Jan 05, 2022 9:14 am

Yes, you solve for Kc and Kp the same way. However, if you are given the concentrations, but it asks for Kp, you will need to use PV=nRT to convert it from concentration to pressure and vice versa if given the pressure when you need the concentration.

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Re: Kc vs. Kp

Postby Prithvi Raj 3E » Wed Jan 05, 2022 12:32 pm

Yes, the method of solving for Kc and Kp are the same. You do the concentrations, or pressure, of the products over that over the reactants. To convert between the two, you use P=MRT where M is molarity and P is pressure.

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Re: Kc vs. Kp

Postby Ivy Vo Dis 1C » Wed Jan 05, 2022 1:27 pm

Kc and Kp are calculated in the same format (products/reactants). However, these two values will use different inputs to calculate the equilibrium ratio. Kc will use the concentrations of the reactants and products to calculate K ([products]/[reactants). Meanwhile, Kp will use the partial pressures of the reactants and products to find equilibrium ratio ((Pressure of products)/(Pressure of reactants)).

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Re: Kc vs. Kp

Postby Anika Scott 3A » Wed Jan 05, 2022 7:56 pm

Kc, Kp, K, Q, Qp, and Qc are all solved in the same way.

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Re: Kc vs. Kp

Postby Molly Smith 1J » Wed Jan 05, 2022 10:10 pm

You solve for both in the same way. Just use Kp for gases (when all components are gas) and Kc for molar concentrations (they are aqueous a lot of the time). The ideology behind both is the same.

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Re: Kc vs. Kp

Postby Martha Avila 1I » Wed Jan 05, 2022 11:20 pm

Hello. Yes, you will solve for Kc in the same way that you solve for Kp. The only difference is that for Kc you are dealing with concentration and with Kp you are dealing with pressure. You would still use the formula of products divided by reactants. This will either give you your Kc or Kp values but if asked to convert you would have to do so. Hope this helps!

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Re: Kc vs. Kp

Postby Aanjaneyaa » Thu Jan 06, 2022 9:56 am

They are both incredibly similar. The method between the two should be the same. The same type of thinking and the same formulas. The only difference is that Kc is for concentration and Kp is for partial pressure.

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Re: Kc vs. Kp

Postby Charlie Sjogren-Black » Thu Jan 06, 2022 10:15 am

Yes, the method for the two should be the same. However, when using Kp you must use partial pressures and when using Kc you must use concentrations. To transfer between the two use pv=nrt

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Re: Kc vs. Kp

Postby Yewon Jang 3K » Thu Jan 06, 2022 12:58 pm

Kp uses the same equation as Kc. You use Kp when all the molecules in the equilibrium are in the gas phase and the units are given in bars/atms. You can use PV=nRT to convert between concentration and pressure.

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Re: Kc vs. Kp

Postby Benjamin Nguyen 1J » Thu Jan 06, 2022 1:25 pm

Yes, Kc and Kp are calculated the same way.

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Re: Kc vs. Kp

Postby Myra Goraya Dis 2E » Thu Jan 06, 2022 1:26 pm

You solve for Kp and Kc the same way, the only difference between the two are the units. Kc involves Molarity (moles/L) and Kp involved partial pressure (atm). The only thing to keep in mind is to make sure all the units are the same when plugging them into the equation.

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Re: Kc vs. Kp

Postby Samantha Loc 1B » Thu Jan 06, 2022 2:22 pm

Hi there!
Like everyone else said, you pretty much solve for Kc and Kp the same way ([P]/[R]) except for Kc you use molar concentrations while for Kp you use pressure. You don't need to convert pressures to concentrations to solve for K, but if you wanted to you would use PV = nRT where (n/V) would be considered the concentration. Hope this helps!

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Re: Kc vs. Kp

Postby Ruben Adamov 1E » Thu Jan 06, 2022 3:22 pm

Kp and Kc are solved in the same way. The only difference is that they have different units (partial pressure and molar concentration).

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Re: Kc vs. Kp

Postby Maggie Messer 1A » Thu Jan 06, 2022 6:19 pm

You can solve Kp the same way that you solve Kc. The only difference between the two is the units. P is partial pressure while C is the molar concentration.

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Re: Kc vs. Kp

Postby Anthony_Rio_3K » Thu Jan 06, 2022 7:40 pm

Is there another way to find partial pressures or is this the main/only way?

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Re: Kc vs. Kp

Postby Daniela G 2C » Thu Jan 06, 2022 8:13 pm

Yes, solving for Kp requires the same steps as solving for Kc. The only difference is the subscript, p is for the unit partial pressure and c is for the unit concentration. Depending on the problem you might want to convert, but it is not necessary.

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Re: Kc vs. Kp

Postby Santiago Cortes 2J » Thu Jan 06, 2022 8:24 pm

Yes you solve for Kc and Kp the same. The difference is that you would only use Kp when all the components are in the gas phase because it deals with partial pressures.
You can convert partial pressures to concentration using the ideal gas equation. However, that would depend on the problem and information given.

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Re: Kc vs. Kp

Postby Mario Prado 1K » Thu Jan 06, 2022 8:34 pm

Hello,

Yes you would solve exactly the same way for both Kc and Kp the only difference is that Kc involves concentrations while Kp deals with partial pressures which when writing out the formula has you put the molecule as a subscript to the letter P to represent its a partial pressure.

Hope this helps.

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Re: Kc vs. Kp

Postby Jessica Li 1G » Sat Jan 08, 2022 12:25 pm

Yes, they are calculated the same unless otherwise stated.

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Re: Kc vs. Kp

Postby cnyland » Sat Jan 08, 2022 1:03 pm

Solving for Kp uses the same method as solving for Kc except for the fact that while solving for Kc, you should be using concentrations, and while solving for Kp you should be using partial pressures.

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Re: Kc vs. Kp

Postby Phoebe Ko 3E » Sat Jan 08, 2022 7:08 pm

Yes, you would solve Kc the same way as Kp, except that you would calculate Kc with molar concentrations and Kp with partial pressures. Note that if a question specifically asks for Kc or Kp, you might have to convert the molar concentrations to partial pressures or vice versa using PV=nRT.

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Re: Kc vs. Kp

Postby Amanda Dankberg 1B » Sat Jan 08, 2022 9:17 pm

you do solve kc the same way as kp but just be sure that everything is the same (either all kc or kp). The only time you need to convert is to make them all the same or if the question asks for something different than what is given (for ex the problem asks for kp but the concentrations are given). The equation to convert is Kp=Kc(RT)^(change in moles)

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Re: Kc vs. Kp

Postby Ivan Huang Dis 3B » Sun Jan 09, 2022 3:03 pm

it is the exact same way except for the units involved are different. The final outcome should be unitless though

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Re: Kc vs. Kp

Postby HaleyC 2F » Sun Jan 09, 2022 3:23 pm

Solving Kc and Kp is the same way they just are used differently. Kp is used when you are dealing with pressure and kc is used for concentrations.

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Re: Kc vs. Kp

Postby ajguerrero » Sun Jan 09, 2022 6:00 pm

You would solve for them the same way its just that the difference is in the subscripts c, which is for concentration, and p, which is for pressure. you also would not need to convert since kp uses partial pressures

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Re: Kc vs. Kp

Postby Jessica Sun 2I » Sun Jan 09, 2022 6:14 pm

The difference between Kc and Kp is that Kc is the equilibrium constant for molar concentration while Kp is the equilibrium constant for partial pressures.

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Re: Kc vs. Kp

Postby Michael 1G » Sun Jan 09, 2022 7:17 pm

Kc and Kp are calculated in the same way. The only difference between the two is that Kc describes the molar concentration ratios of products and reactants and Kp describes product and reactant ratios in the gas phase using partial pressures.

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Re: Kc vs. Kp

Postby IA_1D » Sun Jan 09, 2022 7:21 pm

From what I think Kc and Kp are solved the same way

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Re: Kc vs. Kp

Postby Arden Napoli 1E » Sun Jan 09, 2022 7:55 pm

Hi,

Kc and Kp are solved the exact same way (P/R) however Kc refers to molar concentration whereas Kp refers to partial pressure.

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Re: Kc vs. Kp

Postby Amy Huynh 1B » Sun Jan 09, 2022 8:07 pm

The way to solve for Kc and Kp is essentially the same. We would find Kc or Kp depending on what the problem gives us--Kc if they give us concentrations and Kp if they give us partial pressures. I don't think we need to convert anything to concentration or partial pressure unless it is stated in the problem that Kc or Kp is preferred over one or the other.

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Re: Kc vs. Kp

Postby Kaitlyn_Urquilla_1I » Sun Jan 09, 2022 8:28 pm

Hi! Yes, you solve for Kc the same way you do for Kp.

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Re: Kc vs. Kp

Postby Alice Weber 3I » Sun Jan 09, 2022 8:32 pm

Hi, Kp is calculated the same way as Kc.

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Re: Kc vs. Kp

Postby Uma Patil 2A » Sun Jan 09, 2022 8:35 pm

Kc and Kp take the same forms. If we have all gases, we be using partial pressures of each gas in our calculation instead of concentrations. If for whatever reason you need to convert from partial pressure to concentration, you can use the ideal gas law (PV = nRT ==> n/V = P/RT)

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Re: Kc vs. Kp

Postby 205769933 » Sun Jan 09, 2022 9:21 pm

Yes, it’s calculated the same way—one is just for gases (pressure) and the other aqueous solutions (concentration).

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Re: Kc vs. Kp

Postby Ally M » Sat Mar 12, 2022 2:09 pm

They are solved the same way expect Kp is used when you are dealing with pressure and kc is used for concentrations, and you will obviously be dealing with different units.

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Re: Kc vs. Kp

Postby Aneesha_Nema_3C » Sat Mar 12, 2022 2:18 pm

Yes, they're both solved in the same way. Just remember that Kp is for pressure and Kc is for molar concentration so make sure you're staying consistent with the values you're using to solve the problem.


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