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Ashley Fang 2G
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Re: Reading the textbook

Postby Ashley Fang 2G » Mon Oct 07, 2019 8:30 pm

Personally I find that every time I read the textbook, I tend to fall asleep because it's just that long and boring, especially when you're new to the material.
What I usually will do however is take notes of the summary and important formulas/equations. Once I have grasped the basic concepts, I will then go back to read the book in chunks for further explaining. Otherwise, reading it all at once does get pretty intimidating.
Hope that helped!

Mitchell Koss 4G
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Re: Reading the textbook

Postby Mitchell Koss 4G » Tue Oct 08, 2019 2:55 pm

I believe the material is based on what is covered in class, but the textbook gives you more applications and examples to help better understand the topics.

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Re: Reading the textbook

Postby selatran1h » Tue Oct 08, 2019 3:39 pm

I personally think reading the textbook helps a lot since it helps to clarify certain conceptual topics that are difficult or were not covered as much in lecture. The textbook also has a lot of sample problems that are helpful when doing homework.

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Re: Reading the textbook

Postby Kavee Dodampahala 4E » Tue Oct 08, 2019 7:48 pm

Reading the textbook helps me understand the concepts at my own pace. I find it really useful!

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Re: Reading the textbook

Postby Angela Prince 1J » Thu Oct 10, 2019 11:21 pm

ktran Disc 1I wrote:Are there a lot of topics in the book that are not covered during lecture that show up on tests?


I don't think so. I think everything that will be on a test will be covered in lecture or otherwise noted in the outlines for each topic.

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Re: Reading the textbook

Postby AveryAgosto » Fri Oct 11, 2019 11:25 am

I would recommend reading the textbook to facilitate what is taught in lecture. If you don't feel confident about a certain topic reading the chapter and reading along with the examples in the chapter is really helpful.

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Re: Reading the textbook

Postby BSolano_3A » Fri Oct 11, 2019 12:07 pm

Honestly I personally skim it over and just try to teach myself online through youtube, khan academy, and websites as such. Don't let fear get in the way of you achieving what you want. Head up mate and keep grinding.

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Re: Reading the textbook

Postby Jose Robles 1D » Sun Oct 13, 2019 7:31 pm

Honestly I feel the same way when engaging in reading, but I find study groups make the experience more bearable. When I'm with a few committed friends I feel relaxed and motivated to finish the readings. Plus, if you don't get something you can just ask them on the spot to discuss key ideas.

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Re: Reading the textbook

Postby Alan Cornejo 1a » Sun Oct 13, 2019 10:04 pm

Jessica Li 1F wrote:I used these for my AP Chemistry class in high school, but I think they have some college-level chem as well:
https://chem.libretexts.org/
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCEWpbFLzoYGPfuWUMFPSaoA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IFKnq9QM6_A&list=PLJfwA7_CzYE_qLSXH2hJkpffcrc76NjHJ

Hope this helps!



Thanks for the links provided !

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Re: Reading the textbook

Postby 005162520 » Sun Oct 13, 2019 11:10 pm

When reading from the textbook, what should you take notes on? Or rather what should you focus on?

Liliana Aguas 3G
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Re: Reading the textbook

Postby Liliana Aguas 3G » Sun Oct 13, 2019 11:16 pm

What do you guys recommend when reading the textbook? Because it can get really confusing and I don't understand what to take notes on. Also, should we read them before class and take notes or after lecture?

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Re: Reading the textbook

Postby Jasmine Kim 1L » Sun Oct 13, 2019 11:21 pm

005162520 wrote:When reading from the textbook, what should you take notes on? Or rather what should you focus on?


It's different for everyone. I usually focus on the bolded words and formulas since those are usually what we have to know. However, if I don't understand something, I read the paragraphs that cover the topic and maybe look at an example for it. I also like looking at the pictures and diagrams on the side and reading the captions, partly because my eye just immediately goes towards those when I look at a new page. Diagrams are usually helpful because they visualize the concepts we're learning and I like visual learning.

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Re: Reading the textbook

Postby Jasmine Kim 1L » Sun Oct 13, 2019 11:33 pm

Liliana Aguas 3G wrote:What do you guys recommend when reading the textbook? Because it can get really confusing and I don't understand what to take notes on. Also, should we read them before class and take notes or after lecture?

I think we can read the textbook whenever we want. If you prefer to learn the topics on your own and have the lectures reinforce your knowledge, then read them before class. If you like to learn from the professor first and then read over the topics to review or answer any questions you had during the lecture, then after. If you don't know yet, try each method for a week and see which one you prefer. Same for the textbook notes. Just figure out what works for you. You can take notes on everything, or maybe just the stuff you think you'll have a hard time remembering.

If you can't really understand the textbook, just use other methods of learning, like Khan Academy or other websites. Use the textbook or lecture notes to figure out what topics you need to know, and then learn about them from another source.

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Re: Reading the textbook

Postby Megan_1F » Fri Oct 18, 2019 11:18 am

I tried reading the textbook but I find that a lot of the material is more detailed than what we were taught in class. Should we base our material off of lecture or the textbook?

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Re: Reading the textbook

Postby Rich Zodda 4B » Sun Oct 20, 2019 10:42 pm

Are the lectures enough for the midterms or are we expected to read from the textbook too?

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Re: Reading the textbook

Postby Alan Cornejo 1a » Sun Oct 20, 2019 10:59 pm

reading the textbook is an obvious super helpful tool, to better go in depth as to what you are learning and practice.

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Re: Reading the textbook

Postby Mitchell Koss 4G » Wed Oct 23, 2019 7:20 pm

Not necessarily but some topics are laid out differently which helps with understanding lecture material.

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Re: Reading the textbook

Postby Angela Prince 1J » Thu Oct 24, 2019 12:18 pm

KTran 1I wrote:Are there a lot of topics in the book that are not covered during lecture that show up on tests?


I don't think topics not covered during lecture will ever show up on any exam.

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Re: Reading the textbook

Postby Angela Prince 1J » Thu Oct 24, 2019 12:19 pm

Are the hw problems for week 5 from the quantum topic set still or from the chemical bonds set?

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Re: Reading the textbook

Postby Yailin Romo 4G » Thu Oct 24, 2019 1:01 pm

I find it most helpful when I Read the textbook because it has detailed explanations of how to carry out out the problems along with examples, steps, and answers. Yes, it is overwhelming at time but what I try to do is learn or read one section per day so I dont stress about having to read and learn all of them at once.

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Re: Reading the textbook

Postby CMaduno_1L » Sun Oct 27, 2019 1:36 am

From what I have seen, the topics covered in lecture correlate to what appears on the test. If anything, the textbook may go into more detail than need, which isn't necessarily a bad thing. However, in terms of maximizing studying, I would rely more on the notes from lecture. Hope this helps!

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Re: Reading the textbook

Postby Patricia Cardenas » Sun Oct 27, 2019 11:28 am

I also find it intimidating to read the textbook for review, I find one way to motivate yourself to do so is to read a page then look up videos on that subject to make sure you understand it, and then continue reading.

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Re: Reading the textbook

Postby Areli C 1L » Sun Oct 27, 2019 8:27 pm

I've definitely have been in your shoes before. If the reading feels a intimidating, you should watch some youtube videos first about the concept so you won't go in blind. After that, as you go back to the reading it will feel more familiar and less intimidating!

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Re: Reading the textbook

Postby Jade Hinds 2B » Sun Oct 27, 2019 8:34 pm

going to be honest, I only use the textbook to get homework/practice problems. to me, too much reading makes it confusing, so I mainly utilize my lecture notes and do lots of practice.

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Re: Reading the textbook

Postby Jaklin Astvatsatryan » Sun Oct 27, 2019 9:41 pm

guys i really recommend watching videos, esp my visual learners. start problems and try doing them without notes and then watch videos if you're really stuck.

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Re: Reading the textbook

Postby Liliana Aguas 3G » Sun Oct 27, 2019 9:45 pm

Jasmine Kim 3H wrote:
Liliana Aguas 3G wrote:What do you guys recommend when reading the textbook? Because it can get really confusing and I don't understand what to take notes on. Also, should we read them before class and take notes or after lecture?

I think we can read the textbook whenever we want. If you prefer to learn the topics on your own and have the lectures reinforce your knowledge, then read them before class. If you like to learn from the professor first and then read over the topics to review or answer any questions you had during the lecture, then after. If you don't know yet, try each method for a week and see which one you prefer. Same for the textbook notes. Just figure out what works for you. You can take notes on everything, or maybe just the stuff you think you'll have a hard time remembering.

If you can't really understand the textbook, just use other methods of learning, like Khan Academy or other websites. Use the textbook or lecture notes to figure out what topics you need to know, and then learn about them from another source.


THANK YOU SO MUCH

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Re: Reading the textbook

Postby RichBollini4G » Mon Oct 28, 2019 1:03 am

J_Rodriguez_Dis2k wrote:I know that in the course reader it says to read chapter 5 for a review for gases. But every time i try reading the textbook i get intimidated and i stop reading the textbook . Do you guys find it more helpful when you guys read the textbook?

Yes, although I would agree sometimes it is confusing, it is also good to look over the text book. Looking at the practice problems also helps.

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Re: Reading the textbook

Postby RichBollini4G » Mon Oct 28, 2019 1:04 am

Jaklin Astvatsatryan wrote:guys i really recommend watching videos, esp my visual learners. start problems and try doing them without notes and then watch videos if you're really stuck.

this really helped me, thank you!

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Re: Reading the textbook

Postby Naren_Ramesh_4F » Mon Nov 18, 2019 1:41 pm

I personally would recommend going over the textbook. Although there are some topics are not covered in the scope of the class, the textbook presents a different way of looking at a concept.

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Re: Reading the textbook

Postby 505106414 » Tue Nov 19, 2019 8:32 pm

I have had a problem on a test that had an answer that was only covered in the textbook, not in lecture at all. So, I would say definitely at least skim the textbook chapters.

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Re: Reading the textbook

Postby bloodorangefield » Fri Nov 22, 2019 2:53 pm

The textbook does have a lot of extra information that may not be covered, but it's a good comprehensive guide and the practice problems it introduces are good to do before midterms and finals.

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Re: Reading the textbook

Postby Adelpha Chan 1B » Tue Nov 26, 2019 4:04 pm

The textbook has more examples and some problems with each step of the calculations shown so it is helpful to look over the section before and/or after lecture

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Re: Reading the textbook

Postby bloodorangefield » Fri Dec 06, 2019 3:18 am

I definitely feel that the textbook has a lot of information that the finals and tests won't cover.

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Re: Reading the textbook

Postby Ian Morris 3C » Fri Mar 13, 2020 2:14 pm

i would use the textbook only when i am completely lost on a topic. so fair it has worked out for me

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Re: Reading the textbook

Postby Patricia Cardenas » Fri Mar 13, 2020 6:51 pm

J_Rodriguez_Dis2k wrote:I know that in the course reader it says to read chapter 5 for a review for gases. But every time i try reading the textbook i get intimidated and i stop reading the textbook . Do you guys find it more helpful when you guys read the textbook?


If you find yourself intimidated by the textbook, I recommend seeing the outlines Lavelle posts on his website and watching videos about each learning objective listed. Also, going through your notes and attending peer learning sessions is helpful as well.

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Re: Reading the textbook

Postby Karen Elrayes 1L » Thu Oct 08, 2020 1:40 am

How is everyone going about reading the textbook? Are you guys taking notes while reading? Just reading through it and doing the problems?

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Re: Reading the textbook

Postby Karen Elrayes 1L » Thu Oct 08, 2020 1:41 am

Also are you guys reading all the fundamentals or only the ones recommended in the syllabus?

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Re: Reading the textbook

Postby Catherine Bubser 2C » Thu Oct 08, 2020 8:16 am

I'm reading the fundamentals and the recommended textbook sections but only because its been years since I've taken chemistry and I need a refresher.

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Re: Reading the textbook

Postby Joshua Eidam 3D » Sat Oct 10, 2020 11:06 am

Has anyone else ordered a textbook from the campus bookstore and it still hasn't arrived? I am not really sure what to do about it because I already spent the money on it but we are going to be needing the textbooks more and more. Does anyone know of a place online where I can find it? Thanks.

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Re: Reading the textbook

Postby James Patanian 2C » Sat Oct 10, 2020 11:38 am

KTran 1I wrote:Are there a lot of topics in the book that are not covered during lecture that show up on tests?


I don’t think so. Anything not mentioned in lecture or on assigned hw shouldn’t be on tests. However, the additional learning and reviewing that Dr. Lavelle emphasizes are probably essential to understanding the lectures. Especially since I never took AP Chem and forgot Honors Chem, this applies to me but not to everyone equally.

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Re: Reading the textbook

Postby 505598869 » Sat Oct 10, 2020 11:58 am

I find it beneficial to read the book even if I don't understand it the first time through. The more I hear a concept the more it will make sense. After reading the book, a concept I wasn't understanding might come up in a lecture and I might be able to make sense of it by relating it back to what I read in the book.

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Re: Reading the textbook

Postby America Alvarado » Sat Oct 10, 2020 12:02 pm

I have a quick question. I know that for other classes you can get away with just skimming through the texts, but I was wondering if for chem you guys literally read every page. I feel like it's so dense I don't even know where to start to take notes or what's important.

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Re: Reading the textbook

Postby Megan ODonnell 1K » Sun Oct 11, 2020 4:09 pm

I find it helpful, especially when learning the different equations, constants, and their applications. If you don't like doing the readings, though, there are multiple other ways in which you can learn the material

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Re: Reading the textbook

Postby Jamie2002 » Sun Oct 11, 2020 6:00 pm

I definitely relate to getting intimidated by reading the textbook but it is a really helpful resource. The content might be dense but try to space out your readings so that you can focus more!

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Re: Reading the textbook

Postby Day Preciado 1H » Mon Oct 12, 2020 10:02 pm

What if we don't really read the book and just skim? Does reading the book make difference? Is everything cover in the lectures?

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Re: Reading the textbook

Postby Jaclyn Dang 3A » Tue Oct 13, 2020 8:53 am

As stated before, reading the textbook is not required, but may help develop an indepth understanding of the topics. If you dont want to read the book I would recommend skimming it or referring back to it if you get confused!

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Re: Reading the textbook

Postby 905579227 » Sun Oct 18, 2020 11:54 pm

Does anyone know how we should study for the midterms and how they are ven going to be formatted. Also what will we be allowed to use on ther midterm. I feel like its right around the corner and i am freaking out. Also if anyone is on campus please let me know because I would love a study buddy. Do we have to study the text book on our own or do we just need to know what Lavelle lectures on.

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Re: Reading the textbook

Postby Joshua Eidam 3D » Mon Oct 19, 2020 12:02 am

I ordered the textbooks required for Chem 14A from the UCLA bookstore but they are insanely back ordered I think because I still have not been contacted to get them. Does anyone know of another way to access the textbook? I know we are going to be needing it more and more as the quarter continues. Thanks

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Re: Reading the textbook

Postby Michelle Nguyen 2C » Sat Oct 31, 2020 10:59 pm

For me, I usually read the textbook after going through the lectures. The lectures have everything condensed so that it is easier to grasp the concepts when you read the textbook for more specific details. It's really easy to get lost in the vocabulary and equations (as well as the formatting) of the textbook, so listening to lectures first makes it easier to read the textbook.

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Re: Reading the textbook

Postby Javier Perez M 2J » Sun Nov 01, 2020 11:30 am

Most definitely, when you don't understand something its good to consult the textbook. If that doesn't work ask TAs and UAs. If you can't reach them then just look it up in the internet there could be articles or videos on the topic.

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Re: Reading the textbook

Postby Javier Perez M 2J » Fri Nov 06, 2020 5:30 pm

I think reading the textbook is sometimes more of a supplement when not understanding things, however it better to read it to better grasp the concepts or engrave them into your memory.

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Re: Reading the textbook

Postby 305614361 » Sun Nov 08, 2020 7:42 pm

For anyone struggling with this, I usually use Khan Academy, whenever I don't feel like reading the textbook and also go to office hours

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Re: Reading the textbook

Postby Nathaly Cruz 2D » Sun Nov 08, 2020 7:48 pm

I know it's pretty late to ask this. I completely bombed my first midterm and I was looking for ways to improve my second midterm. I keep seeing that the textbook is really good for extra practice and explanations. Could someone please explain where to find the textbook?

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Re: Reading the textbook

Postby LeahSWM » Wed Nov 18, 2020 12:52 am

The textbook is very confusing for me; I find it difficult to process any information. Any tips? good alternatives?

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Re: Reading the textbook

Postby Charisma Arreola 2L » Sun Nov 29, 2020 10:00 pm

Reading the textbook before watching lectures has helped me to get an understanding of what his lecture can cover. It is best if you break it up and try not to read too many pages in one sitting so that you can take everything in.

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Re: Reading the textbook

Postby Annette Fishman 2A » Sun Nov 29, 2020 10:02 pm

I think the textbook is extremely helpful in clearing up topics that weren't clearly defined in lectures. Plus, lectures are super long and have a ton of information, while the book condenses it. It is way easier to follow in my opinion!

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Re: Reading the textbook

Postby Jacob Schwarz » Mon Nov 30, 2020 10:47 am

I do try to read the textbook but quite honestly, at times it is very difficult to read. I would definitely recommend trying your best, but I’ve found the textbook problems the most helpful


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