Which R to use?


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Kloey Reyes
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Which R to use?

Postby Kloey Reyes » Sun Jan 09, 2022 10:42 pm

With the different values for R available for the PV=nRT equation, how do we know which one to use for different problems?

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Re: Which R to use?

Postby Ethan_Choi_2I » Sun Jan 09, 2022 10:46 pm

I think that it is based off the units in the problem? Like the units of the other variables and what units the question wants can influence what value of R you use.

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Re: Which R to use?

Postby 305607822 » Sun Jan 09, 2022 10:52 pm

Yeah I would use the R value with units that correspond to units used in the problem. Not 100% sure though, ask your TA.

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Re: Which R to use?

Postby Baffour Adusei 1L » Sun Jan 09, 2022 11:16 pm

Hi! It should largely depend on what units you are dealing with, like atm, torr, etc.

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Re: Which R to use?

Postby 105778693 » Sun Jan 09, 2022 11:29 pm

You should use the R that correspond to the units in the question. I found myself using R = 8.314 x 10^-2 L.bar.K^-1.mol^-1 when going through the achieve textbook questions though.

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Re: Which R to use?

Postby Symphony Jackson 3K » Sun Jan 09, 2022 11:42 pm

The R that you use is relative to the units used in the problem, so its not constant but changes depending on the question :)

Jessica Berejikian
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Re: Which R to use?

Postby Jessica Berejikian » Sun Jan 09, 2022 11:45 pm

For the equation PV=nRT, R is the gas constant: 8.314 J/(mol)(K). If the given units in the problem are not in SI units, the value may vary.

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Re: Which R to use?

Postby Arshaun Faraji 2H » Sun Jan 09, 2022 11:53 pm

I would use the R value with units that match those in the problem you are solving.

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Re: Which R to use?

Postby Angela Harrington 2L » Mon Jan 10, 2022 12:02 am

I'm pretty sure which R-value you use just depends on the units.

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Re: Which R to use?

Postby Carlie_Dorostkar_1A » Mon Jan 10, 2022 12:18 am

Does anyone know in what cases you would use the R constant of 8.314 J*K^-1*mol^-1? For the other 2 constants the units that measure partial pressure are included (atm and bar). Can joules be used to measure pressure?

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Re: Which R to use?

Postby 905565862 » Tue Jan 11, 2022 9:50 pm

You can choose which R value to use based off of the units used in the problem!

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Re: Which R to use?

Postby Crystal Ma 2J » Wed Jan 12, 2022 12:24 pm

Each value has different units, so I'd use the value that corresponds with the units of the problem given!

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Re: Which R to use?

Postby Nicole Friday 1E » Wed Jan 12, 2022 12:46 pm

The R you have to use depends on the units that the question is based on.

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Re: Which R to use?

Postby 405479701 » Wed Jan 12, 2022 2:51 pm

The units in the specific problem will tell you.

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Re: Which R to use?

Postby Riya Sawhney 1C » Sun Jan 16, 2022 4:26 pm

Look at the units you are using in the formula, and pick the R constant with the correct units. Remember, in the end you want all your units to cancel out.

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Re: Which R to use?

Postby isabella garcia - 1G » Sun Jan 16, 2022 4:48 pm

I was confused about this too, but apparently you use whatever units you were given in the problem.

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Re: Which R to use?

Postby gracebinder3I » Sun Jan 16, 2022 4:57 pm

Hi!
With the different units used in the Ideal Gas Law, the value of R depends on the question.
The most common value for R = 8.314 J/Kmol but 8.206E-2 Latm/Kmol and 62.364 LTorr/Kmol are also used.
I hope this helps!

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Re: Which R to use?

Postby Mekenna Faulkner » Sun Jan 16, 2022 7:35 pm

The R used is dependent on units. The values are the same with respect to their units. 8.314 is the most commonly used one since it’s units are J/kmol

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Re: Which R to use?

Postby Jieun 2C » Sun Jan 16, 2022 10:38 pm

Depending on the units of your values, a different numerical value of R should be used. R= 8.314 J/mol*K is most common.

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Re: Which R to use?

Postby 305561744 » Sun Jan 16, 2022 11:44 pm

Does anyone have a sheet that lists the different Rs with their units?

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Re: Which R to use?

Postby Carlie_Dorostkar_1A » Mon Jan 17, 2022 9:06 pm

305561744 wrote:Does anyone have a sheet that lists the different Rs with their units?


The sheet is called Constants and Equations and is on the Chem 14B section of lavelle's website.

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Re: Which R to use?

Postby Cory Poon 3G » Sat Jan 29, 2022 1:17 am

Use the correct R by checking the units of the numbers in the problem.

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Re: Which R to use?

Postby Jessica Sun 2I » Sat Jan 29, 2022 9:35 pm

Depending on what units you are given for a specific problem, the R value will be different.

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Re: Which R to use?

Postby Lindsey Walter 3E » Thu Mar 10, 2022 12:21 pm

The value for R that you choose is dependent on the units given for the problem!

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Re: Which R to use?

Postby Guadalupe_3B » Fri Mar 11, 2022 11:24 pm

The R you should use depends on the units used in the problem.

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Re: Which R to use?

Postby Vashe Sundar 3H » Fri Mar 11, 2022 11:28 pm

The R value that you end up using depends on the units used in the problem, but once you get in the habit of doing problems, you kind of figure out which R to use when because of the typical units of that problem.

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Re: Which R to use?

Postby Hayden Jackson » Fri Mar 11, 2022 11:30 pm

Choosing which R to use depends completely on the units in the equation. For pv=nRT we always use R=.08206 atm x L / m x K because of how its units fit into the equation. Hope this helps!

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Re: Which R to use?

Postby Nathan Morgan 2C » Fri Mar 11, 2022 11:31 pm

The R you use will depend on the units given to you. For example if pressure was given in pascals you would use the 8.31 R constant so that pascals can cancel.

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Re: Which R to use?

Postby Divya Mehta 2K » Fri Mar 11, 2022 11:36 pm

You need to check the units of the numbers in the problem.

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Re: Which R to use?

Postby bernal_maria1A » Sat Mar 12, 2022 12:01 am

Hi! I agree with everyone else, I think a visual would help. I refer to this chart, taking into account the rest of units of measurements.
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Re: Which R to use?

Postby 205819952 » Sat Mar 12, 2022 12:46 am

Based on the units used in the problem, you can pick which R value to use.

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Re: Which R to use?

Postby Aneesha_Nema_3C » Sat Mar 12, 2022 2:01 pm

Hey! You would use the different values of R corresponding to the units of the other values in the expression

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Re: Which R to use?

Postby Katherine Li 1A » Sat Mar 12, 2022 2:03 pm

For all the equations using energy, use 8.314. The only equation that uses R = 0.08 that I can immediately think of is PV = nRT. Just, when in doubt, check the units of the problem.


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