ICE Box for Partial Pressures


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Kylie Heering 1D
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ICE Box for Partial Pressures

Postby Kylie Heering 1D » Wed Jan 25, 2023 9:25 pm

Can you use the ICE box technique with partial pressures instead of concentrations?

Manasvini Kala 2G
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Re: ICE Box for Partial Pressures

Postby Manasvini Kala 2G » Wed Jan 25, 2023 9:51 pm

Yes! The ICE chart can be used for partial pressures if all the reactants and products are in the gaseous state. There are some occasions where they give "concentrations" of the gases, ut ultimately, partial pressures and concentrations are used for the same thing in ICE charts.

Alyssa_Miao_3B
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Re: ICE Box for Partial Pressures

Postby Alyssa_Miao_3B » Fri Jan 27, 2023 12:10 am

Yes, we can. Some questions provide the partial pressures of the products/reactions instead of the concentrations. We would use the same process for these kinds of problems, except using the partial pressures. Thus, we would be solving for Kp (equilibrium constant for partial pressures) instead of Kc (equilibrium constant for concentrations). We use the equation Kp = (P products)/(P reactants), which is almost the same as the equation for Kc, [reactants]/[products]. Then you would go on to solve the problem as you would if you were dealing with concentrations.

Kelly Tang 1B
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Re: ICE Box for Partial Pressures

Postby Kelly Tang 1B » Fri Jan 27, 2023 12:02 pm

Yes! The whole process for solving Kp by working with partial pressures is the same as if we were working with concentration and Kc. We just have to make sure that we keep the same units throughout the ICE chart. We could even convert the partial pressures into concentrations through the equation P=[]RT (if we need to convert the partial pressures to [] to solve for Kc at least).

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Re: ICE Box for Partial Pressures

Postby 405773279 » Fri Jan 27, 2023 3:50 pm

As everyone said, the ICE box can be used for partial pressures as far as the units are consistent. the only thing to note is that Kp can be calculated only if all reactants and products are in the gaseous state

Ashlynn_Chen_3H
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Re: ICE Box for Partial Pressures

Postby Ashlynn_Chen_3H » Fri Jan 27, 2023 3:58 pm

Yes. ice box works for partial pressure just how it does for concentrations. It is sometimes easier to convert to concentrations though if the question wants the answer in the form of molarity.

Anthony Lau-Xiao 1E
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Re: ICE Box for Partial Pressures

Postby Anthony Lau-Xiao 1E » Sat Jan 28, 2023 6:39 pm

Yes you can use the ICE table with partial pressures instead of concentrations, just make sure to keep them consistent throughout. Also 1 bar is approximately equal to 1 atm so you won't have to convert atm to bar.

Tatum Pearlman 2D
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Re: ICE Box for Partial Pressures

Postby Tatum Pearlman 2D » Sat Jan 28, 2023 6:46 pm

Yes, ICE charts are used for partial pressures if units are consistent. If all the units are in atm, you can use an ICE chart as you would use it for normal concentrations because 1atm is approximately 1 bar.

Stephanie Rodas 2C
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Re: ICE Box for Partial Pressures

Postby Stephanie Rodas 2C » Sun Jan 29, 2023 9:20 pm

You can use an ICE table or partial pressure if the units are consistent. Just remember that pressure can be in bars or atm.


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