Gas Constant


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Gas Constant

Postby 505673236 » Mon Jan 30, 2023 12:13 pm

What gas constant(R) are we supposed to use there are multiple on the formula sheet when using the ideal gas law?

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Re: Gas Constant

Postby Chem_Mod » Mon Jan 30, 2023 5:51 pm

It depends on what equation you are using the gas constant for/what units you are using. Make sure all of your units match every time you use the gas constant.

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Re: Gas Constant

Postby Miracle Ogbonnaya 3B » Sun Feb 05, 2023 5:31 pm

It depends on what the question is asking for as well.

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Re: Gas Constant

Postby Arambula 1H » Sun Feb 05, 2023 5:35 pm

Depends on the units provided and what they want the answer in. You may have to convert between them.

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Re: Gas Constant

Postby Oscar Tan 1L » Sun Feb 05, 2023 5:36 pm

The gas constant R depends on what units are being used!

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Re: Gas Constant

Postby chloeremigio1e » Sun Feb 05, 2023 7:59 pm

Like the other answers, the gas constant R that you use will just depend on what the question asks for! Personally, I got a little confused a couple times too, but just be sure to double check that your units are consistent with what the problem is using :)

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Re: Gas Constant

Postby Min Hur 1L » Sun Feb 05, 2023 8:13 pm

It completely depends on the problem, but if you just double check the units for the equations given, you should be golden!

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Re: Gas Constant

Postby Sydney Min 2H » Sun Feb 05, 2023 8:30 pm

Although there are multiple versions of the R constant depending on the unit, our equation sheet gives us 3 versions each with different units. Just make sure that the units match with the units given in the question and they cancel out. I like to write down the units when solving so that I can ensure that the units cancel out evenly.

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Re: Gas Constant

Postby Ken Kwok 2J » Sun Feb 05, 2023 9:00 pm

It depends on the units but in J/(mol*K), R is 8.314.

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Re: Gas Constant

Postby Mariet Garcia 1E » Sun Feb 05, 2023 10:38 pm

I believe it depends on each problem! You just need to check the units to make sure you are using the one with the correct units.

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Re: Gas Constant

Postby Ojas Sharma 2G » Sun Feb 05, 2023 10:42 pm

The value you use for r is dependent on what you are given in the problem. The equation sheet has multiple values listed so just make sure your units match and that should be fine.

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Re: Gas Constant

Postby Emily La 2B » Mon Feb 06, 2023 1:12 am

Yea, usually the gas constant is R = 8.3145 J/K·mol or R= 0.08206 L·atm/K·mol. It depends on the problem and its units that are given.

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Re: Gas Constant

Postby Caitlin_Chheda_1K » Thu Feb 16, 2023 12:14 pm

Hi! It depends on the question and the units in the question. However, I've only really used 0.082 or 8.314 in this class, and for 14B I tend to use 8.314 for the problems more than 0.082. I hope this helps!

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Re: Gas Constant

Postby Wesley J the BioChem Kid » Mon Feb 20, 2023 12:01 pm

For thermodynamics you usually use 8.314J/Kmol because you're dealing with energy transfers. However for ideal gas situations it is most often 0.08206Latm/Kmol but this value is also altered to fit the correct pressure units (ex. 62.363LmmHg/Kmol).

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Re: Gas Constant

Postby Ilisa Risal 1H » Mon Feb 20, 2023 12:35 pm

The gas constant used depends on what equation is being used. A trick for figuring out which one to use is looking at the units in your equation and making sure they cancel out.

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Re: Gas Constant

Postby Kaylee Cheng 3E » Mon Feb 20, 2023 12:42 pm

The R value is dependent on the units provided in the situation presented.

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Re: Gas Constant

Postby Kaylee Cheng 3E » Mon Feb 20, 2023 12:45 pm

The R value is dependent on the units provided in the situation presented.

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Re: Gas Constant

Postby Brandon_G_1H » Mon Feb 27, 2023 1:14 pm

Hello! The R value, 0.08206, is going to be used in the equation PV=nRT. While, the R value 8.314 will be used when the question is asking for work, Gibbs free energy, or entropy, etc.

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Re: Gas Constant

Postby Rebecca_Park_1G » Mon Mar 13, 2023 6:24 pm

The gas constant depends on the units being used in the specific problem. For example, if we have pressure in atm and volume given in liters, then we would use 8.206 x 10^-2. However, if we need to cancel out J and K, such as in problems involving work and free energy, we would use R=8.314.

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Re: Gas Constant

Postby marika roberts 3l » Sat Mar 18, 2023 2:45 pm

Hi! To answer your question, the gas constant you use is dependent on the units of the other components of the formula. When I am not sure which to use, I will write my chosen equation out and list the units I will be using for each element. Pay special attention to the units of what you are trying to find. Then look at what will already cancel out. I will then compare these units with the units I want to end up with and consult the formula sheet to see which R will best fill in the gaps to get me to my desired units! Another tip is equations of the same type/topic will often consistently use the same R value so take a look at textbook questions or examples from lectures to see which R is used when R

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Re: Gas Constant

Postby 205898077 » Sat Mar 18, 2023 3:03 pm

The constant R is dependent on which units are being used in the problems.

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Re: Gas Constant

Postby nataliemartin2H » Sat Mar 18, 2023 5:01 pm

The other replies are correct in that it depends on the units. However, if you are stuck during the exam and blanking on which to use, it might not help at the moment to try and think about the units. If this happens and you have to guess, use 0.08206 in PV=nRT and 8.314 in anything else. This method won't work 100% of the time but it is a good backup plan that will often get you the right answer. Good luck!

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Re: Gas Constant

Postby Jenifer_Fonseca » Sun Mar 19, 2023 11:20 am

Hello,
It really depends on what units we are given in the problem.
I will list the units and their respective R constant below:

L-atm-/mol-K. 0.08206
J/mol-K. 8.314
cal/mol-K. 1.987
m^3-Pa/mol-K*
L-torr/mol-K 62.36

Hope this helps!


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