Size vs Intermolecular Forces

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Warren Jolicoeur 1B
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Size vs Intermolecular Forces

Postby Warren Jolicoeur 1B » Sun Nov 14, 2021 10:51 pm

How much does the size of the molecule affect its melting and boiling point. For example if i had a molecule that was very large (30 atoms) but only had Dispersion forces applied on it vs a HCl molecule, which would melt first?Thanks!

Ryan Burchell 3D
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Re: Size vs Intermolecular Forces

Postby Ryan Burchell 3D » Sun Nov 14, 2021 10:55 pm

Size has a large effect on dispersion forces, the bigger a molecule is the stronger the dispersion forces are going to be. I can't be positive about your example but remember that dispersion forces are the weakest type of intermolecular forces so even if a molecule was large, the relative force exerted by the dispersion forces should still be low in comparison to the other intermolecular forces.

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Re: Size vs Intermolecular Forces

Postby Rachel Yu 3K » Sun Nov 14, 2021 10:59 pm

Typically, as the size of a molecule increases, so does its melting and boiling points. As a molecule's size increases, there is an increase in the magnitude of dispersion forces. Although size does contribute to IMF strength, even if a large molecule has a lot of dispersion strength, it still will not be stronger than other bonds such as an H-bond.

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Re: Size vs Intermolecular Forces

Postby 305561744 » Thu Dec 02, 2021 2:36 pm

Does size only affect dispersion forces? Does it have any bearing on hydrogen bonds, ion-dipole, etc...?

Raizel Ferrer 1H
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Re: Size vs Intermolecular Forces

Postby Raizel Ferrer 1H » Sat Dec 04, 2021 1:48 am

The size of an atom is a big factor in melting and boiling points. Since dispersion forces are the weakest intermolecular forces, then the larger atom with dispersion forces would have a lower melting and boiling point. An HCl molecule would melt last, cause it has a dipole-dipole interaction which is a stronger intermolecular force than disperson forces.

Kavya Anand 2B
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Re: Size vs Intermolecular Forces

Postby Kavya Anand 2B » Sat Dec 04, 2021 2:30 am

Size has an effect on melting and boiling points, since it affects dispersion forces; the larger a molecule the greater the London dispersion forces will be. However, since dispersion forces are the weakest intermolecular forces, the appearance of other intermolecular forces might overshadow the effect of the size of a molecule.

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Re: Size vs Intermolecular Forces

Postby AndreyCastellanos 3H » Sat Dec 04, 2021 2:34 am

Size is a big factor b/c the bigger a molecule is the stronger the dispersion forces are going to be

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Re: Size vs Intermolecular Forces

Postby ElizabethKarlin2E » Sat Dec 04, 2021 11:42 am

The bigger the molecule, the stronger the forces will be so it does play a big role in dispersion forces


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