Degeneracy

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Degeneracy

Postby Junghyuk_Park_1I » Thu Jan 26, 2017 7:02 pm

What exactly is degeneracy conceptually? How is it applied in thermodynamics?

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Re: Degeneracy

Postby Chem_Mod » Sat Jan 28, 2017 10:30 pm

degeneracy describes the number of states at a specific energy, each state has a different orientation or placement of molecule, but the energy remains the same.

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Re: Degeneracy

Postby Asia Yamada 2B » Tue Feb 16, 2021 6:41 pm

Degeneracy is the number of ways of achieving a given energy state. This is applied to thermodynamics because it’s related to entropy. As degeneracy increases, there is more disorder and therefore has more entropy.

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Re: Degeneracy

Postby JasmineCap1A » Sun Feb 21, 2021 1:12 pm

Example from lecture: 2 atoms in a flask with two same states (L&R). You can have AB both on the left, AB both on the right, A on the left while B is on the right or A on the right side while B is on the left. The degeneracy is w=4, because we have the number of states raised to the power of the # on particles, n. So it would be w= 2^2=4. If there was only one atom, it would be w=2^1=2.

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Re: Degeneracy

Postby Nishka Vipul 1J » Sun Feb 21, 2021 1:17 pm

Degeneracy is essentially the number of possible equal energy states.

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Re: Degeneracy

Postby Astha Sahoo 3I » Sun Feb 21, 2021 1:19 pm

It's basically how many states a molecule has with equal energy. In most problems it's given, but for some like NO it's easily figured out that there's only two states because it can only be orientated N-O or O-N

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Re: Degeneracy

Postby Neel Bonthala 2G » Sun Feb 21, 2021 1:24 pm

When I think about degeneracy, or at least calculating w, I always think about it as the number of possible states the molecule can exist in raised to the amount that is present. So if there is one mole present, the number of possible states would be raised by avagadro's number: 6.022x10^23 molecules.

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Re: Degeneracy

Postby Pranav Daggubati 3C » Sun Feb 21, 2021 2:08 pm

The number of states that lead to the same outcome. The more there are, the more disordered the system is

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Re: Degeneracy

Postby Anthony_Sandoval_1D » Sun Feb 21, 2021 11:08 pm

Degeneracy is the number of equal energy states. In thermodynamics, the more degeneracy increases, the more entropy there is.

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Re: Degeneracy

Postby magalysantos_1F » Mon Feb 22, 2021 12:53 pm

We can think of it in terms of a molecule, where its bonds are flexible and can be positioned a number of ways, increasing degeneracy; this is because it is the number of microstates, or positions, which in turn increases entropy.

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Re: Degeneracy

Postby Madeline Ogden 3B » Mon Feb 22, 2021 2:25 pm

To add onto what previous comments have said, the reason that entropy increases as degeneracy increases is due to positional disorder. The more energy states there are, the more possible positions there are for molecules to be in, hence more potential disorder is possible.

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Re: Degeneracy

Postby Pratika Nagpal » Sun Mar 14, 2021 12:05 pm

What are some examples of questions we could get asked about degeneracy.


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