Degeneracy vs Disorder

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Emma Ward 2C
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Degeneracy vs Disorder

Postby Emma Ward 2C » Sat Feb 03, 2018 7:34 pm

is degeneracy the same thing as disorder?

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Re: Degeneracy vs Disorder

Postby 104922499 1F » Sat Feb 03, 2018 8:34 pm

Im confused on this as well

Hazem Nasef 1I
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Re: Degeneracy vs Disorder

Postby Hazem Nasef 1I » Sat Feb 03, 2018 10:34 pm

Degeneracy refers to the number of ways of achieving a given energy state. Disorder refers to the organization of atoms and molecules. They are similar in the fact that when either degeneracy (Boltzmann equation) or disorder increases, entropy also increases. Although they are similar properties, they are not the same.

Matthew 1C
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Re: Degeneracy vs Disorder

Postby Matthew 1C » Sat Feb 03, 2018 11:04 pm

Also, degeneracy is the value W in the Boltzmann equation, which is S=KblnW

Pooja Nair 1C
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Re: Degeneracy vs Disorder

Postby Pooja Nair 1C » Wed Feb 07, 2018 11:47 am

Disorder refers to the way that energy and matter tend to disperse. Degeneracy refers to the number of ways of achieving a given state. Degeneracy occurs if the energy is unable to stay in one state, represented by the W value. For example, the different microstates, which correspond to each arrangement of atoms in the state, contribute to the degeneracy of a substance. As the number of microstates increases, there are more ways for the atoms to orient themselves. With a higher number of possible states, there is more disorder, as there is a more diverse selection of microstates which the atoms could orient themselves as. The Boltzmann equation states that S = k*ln(W), therefore the two are directly related. Higher degeneracy increases disorder


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