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### 6th Edition Problem 8.21

Posted: **Tue Jan 29, 2019 4:15 pm**

by **lizettelopez1F**

A piece of copper of mass 20.0 g at 100.0 C is placed in a vessel of negligible heat capacity but containing 50.7 g of water at 22.0 C. Calculate the final temperature of the water. Assume that no energy is lost to the surroundings.

What is the general equation that needs to be used to find the final temperature of the water?

### Re: 6th Edition Problem 8.21

Posted: **Tue Jan 29, 2019 4:19 pm**

by **beckyolmedo1G**

heat lost by the copper= -heat gained by the water

so, you use the equation (mass of copper)(Tfinal-TInitial of copper)(C)=-(mass of water)(Tfinal-Tinitial of water)(C). Then solve for Tfinal

### Re: 6th Edition Problem 8.21

Posted: **Tue Jan 29, 2019 10:35 pm**

by **KarlaArevalo2F**

hi becky, how did you derive this equation?

### Re: 6th Edition Problem 8.21

Posted: **Wed Jan 30, 2019 12:17 am**

by **Heesu_Kim_1F**

Hi, this might help.

The idea comes from Qsystem+Qsurr=0.

Qsystem = -Qsurr, in which copper = system and water = surrounding.

Thus, heat lost by copper = -heat gained by water.

Then use the calorimetry equation q = m x Cp x delta T to solve.

### Re: 6th Edition Problem 8.21

Posted: **Wed Jan 30, 2019 1:23 am**

by **Saman Andalib 1H**

The general concept that is used here is heat lost by the copper= -heat gained by the water. In the formula, the only thing that is a little bit tricky is that you have to use (Tfinal-Tinitial) for the variable delta T, then use algebra to simplify the equation to solve for Tfinal.

### Re: 6th Edition Problem 8.21

Posted: **Wed Feb 06, 2019 12:08 am**

by **Kobe_Wright**

What would cp be in this equation?

### Re: 6th Edition Problem 8.21

Posted: **Wed Feb 06, 2019 12:09 am**

by **Kobe_Wright**

What would cp be in this equation?

### Re: 6th Edition Problem 8.21

Posted: **Fri Feb 08, 2019 9:55 am**

by **Lynsea_Southwick_2K**

cp would be different for copper and water. Cp copper = o.38 J/Celsius*g and cp water is 4.18 J/Celsius*g

Kobe_Wright wrote:What would cp be in this equation?

### Re: 6th Edition Problem 8.21

Posted: **Sun Feb 10, 2019 2:24 pm**

by **Chloe Likwong 2K**

Kobe_Wright wrote:What would cp be in this equation?

If the substance is anything except water, the Cp is usually given in the question.