closed system energy change

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Mallika Singh 1G
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closed system energy change

Postby Mallika Singh 1G » Mon Feb 03, 2020 2:13 pm

is doing work on a closed system the same as adding heat?

Bilal Pandit 1J
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Re: closed system energy change

Postby Bilal Pandit 1J » Mon Feb 03, 2020 2:14 pm

No, in a closed system, heat and work are two different aspects of energy change.

Asia Yamada 2B
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Re: closed system energy change

Postby Asia Yamada 2B » Tue Feb 16, 2021 6:29 pm

No, they are different. Heat is represented by q and work is represented by w. q + w is equal to the change in internal energy of the closed system.

Kayle Lim 2C
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Re: closed system energy change

Postby Kayle Lim 2C » Tue Feb 16, 2021 10:36 pm

Both heat and work contribute to energy changes, but they are not the same thing. In a closed system, adding heat would not be equivalent to doing work. I can see how you may have thought applying work is the same as applying heat, but just keep in mind that they are both 2 different factors.

Jaclyn Dang 3B
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Re: closed system energy change

Postby Jaclyn Dang 3B » Tue Feb 16, 2021 10:40 pm

No work is a force over a distance while heat is energy that is transferred as a result of temperature difference. Internal energy is both U= w+q.

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Re: closed system energy change

Postby Anthony_Sandoval_1D » Sun Feb 21, 2021 11:18 pm

No, they are not the same. Both contribute to a change in energy and give you the internal energy (U). However, work is, as someone earlier mentioned, force over distance whereas heat is the energy transferred over after an increase or decrease in temperature.

Tanner Bartyczak 1K
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Re: closed system energy change

Postby Tanner Bartyczak 1K » Sun Feb 21, 2021 11:32 pm

No, work and heat are not the same. Others' explanations are better than I could explain.

Taha 2D
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Re: closed system energy change

Postby Taha 2D » Sun Feb 21, 2021 11:34 pm

No they are different but Both contribute to the internal energy of a system

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Re: closed system energy change

Postby AlbertGu_2C » Sun Feb 21, 2021 11:46 pm

work and heat both contribute to energy change, but are not the same thing

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Re: closed system energy change

Postby Sera Aintablian 2E » Mon Feb 22, 2021 2:36 pm

On a closed system, work can be done AND heat can be transferred. They are represented by two different variables, "w" and "q," respectively.

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Re: closed system energy change

Postby Ranen_Chang_2G » Mon Feb 22, 2021 4:21 pm

Work and heat both contribute to internal energy change, given the equation delta U=q+w, however they are two different factors.

Jacob Schwarz-Discussion 3I
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Re: closed system energy change

Postby Jacob Schwarz-Discussion 3I » Thu Feb 25, 2021 4:32 pm

No these are different because adding heat is defined by q whereas doing work is defined by w. However, both heat and work do add up to giving the internal energy of the system

Chudi Onyedika 3A
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Re: closed system energy change

Postby Chudi Onyedika 3A » Sun Feb 28, 2021 3:56 pm

Although it could transfer energy like heat, work is not the same.

Kayla Booker 1F
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Re: closed system energy change

Postby Kayla Booker 1F » Sun Feb 28, 2021 3:59 pm

No, adding heat is represented by q and work is represented by w, they are both needed to calculate the change in internal energy

Charisma Arreola 2F
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Re: closed system energy change

Postby Charisma Arreola 2F » Sun Feb 28, 2021 4:09 pm

No, although it is similar.

Nan_Guan_1L
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Re: closed system energy change

Postby Nan_Guan_1L » Sun Feb 28, 2021 10:23 pm

In a closed system, you would need to consider both work and heat as the two aspects are different in nature. The total amount of energy change doesn’t really tell you much, since you would also want to consider the nuance changes going on inside the closed system.

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Re: closed system energy change

Postby Bai Rong Lin 2K » Sun Feb 28, 2021 11:02 pm

No, they would not be the same but it would be quite similar


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