Isolated Systems

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Isolated Systems

Postby EmilyC_3D » Mon Feb 22, 2021 1:25 pm

Is a completely isolated system actually possible or is it only a theoretical idea? If so, what are some real world examples of how we've replicated this situation?

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Re: Isolated Systems

Postby Nika Gladkov 1A » Mon Feb 22, 2021 1:35 pm

I think that a perfectly isolated system is a theoretical idea because there will always be some sort of exchange with the surroundings.

Hope Fan 2A
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Re: Isolated Systems

Postby Hope Fan 2A » Mon Feb 22, 2021 1:44 pm

I believe that there is no such thing as an isolated system in real life because, like the other user has said, there will always been some kind of exchange with the surroundings no matter how insulated or sealed it is.

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Re: Isolated Systems

Postby Eileen Quach Dis 2A » Mon Feb 22, 2021 1:56 pm

I believe it's theoretical because you can't completely prevent energy from entering or leaving a system because of the natural design of the container. We can get close to doing this though using a bomb calorimeter.

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Re: Isolated Systems

Postby 605291562 » Sun Feb 28, 2021 11:22 pm

I don't think that there can be a perfect isolated system, however I'm pretty sure that we are able to get fairly close and therefore in these cases can make the assumption that it will follow the same equations and patterns as a perfectly isolated system.

George Hernandez 3I
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Re: Isolated Systems

Postby George Hernandez 3I » Sun Mar 07, 2021 3:12 pm

The bomb calorimeter is an example of a real isolated system. But I doubt it is a completely perfect system.

Kiana Tashakori 1D
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Re: Isolated Systems

Postby Kiana Tashakori 1D » Sun Mar 07, 2021 3:19 pm

I think that isolated systems are just theoretical because even though we have come close (like the bomb calorimeter mentioned), we haven't found a way to completely stop exchanges from happening with the surroundings.

Ethan Goode 2H
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Re: Isolated Systems

Postby Ethan Goode 2H » Sun Mar 07, 2021 3:36 pm

I believe it is only for theoretical purposes, and is not something actually happening.

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Re: Isolated Systems

Postby Alison Perkins 2B » Sun Mar 07, 2021 3:37 pm

It is theoretical because it is so difficult to actually create perfect conditions. I think the bomb calorimeter is a real isolated system but I am unsure how close it is to perfect.

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Re: Isolated Systems

Postby Kristina Krivenko 3I » Sun Mar 07, 2021 4:02 pm

I think that a perfectly isolated system is more of a theoretical idea that we can't completely execute in real life. We can get close to it, and a bomb calorimeter would be an example of that, but I believe that Dr. Lavelle mentioned in the lecture that, as time goes on, a bomb calorimeter becomes less and less of an isolated system due to it getting "worn out" with use.

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Re: Isolated Systems

Postby Jeremy Wei 2C » Tue Mar 09, 2021 5:04 am

If I'm not wrong, the concept of an isolated system is theoretical since no matter what there will always at least some exchange of energy.

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Re: Isolated Systems

Postby Edgar Velazquez 2K » Fri Mar 12, 2021 6:50 pm

It's only theoretical because it would require perfect hardware that wouldn't worsen over time in order to stay completely/perfectly isolated.

Ansh Patel 2I
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Re: Isolated Systems

Postby Ansh Patel 2I » Fri Mar 12, 2021 7:06 pm

Hi! I'm pretty sure a completely isolated system is for theoretical purposes because it's nearly impossible for no exchange to occur for a prolonged period of time.

Jared Limqueco 3E
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Re: Isolated Systems

Postby Jared Limqueco 3E » Sat Mar 13, 2021 8:00 pm

A perfect isolated system is theoretical since there is always some kind of exchange with surroundings.

Gicelle Rubin 1E
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Re: Isolated Systems

Postby Gicelle Rubin 1E » Sat Mar 13, 2021 10:32 pm

As everyone has said, it's theoretical :)

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Re: Isolated Systems

Postby Diana Aguilar 3H » Sun Mar 14, 2021 9:20 pm

Hi! Like many others have stated, a perfect isolated system is theoretical since there has to be some exchange of energy.


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