difference between closed and isolated

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difference between closed and isolated

Postby jonathan chi 1J » Wed Jan 26, 2022 11:42 am

What is the difference between a closed system and an isolated system?

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Re: difference between closed and isolated

Postby Anne Hogue 2J » Wed Jan 26, 2022 12:57 pm

A closed system is when there is a fixed amount of matter, but the system can exchange energy with surroundings. However, a closed system cannot exchange energy with its surroundings. In fact, it does not exchange anything with surroundings. An example of a closed system is a cold pack for injuries while an example of an isolated system is a sealed thermos.

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Re: difference between closed and isolated

Postby Brandon Padilla 2L » Wed Jan 26, 2022 1:45 pm

A closed system can exchange energy with its surroundings, whereas an isolated system can exchange nothing with its surroundings.

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Re: difference between closed and isolated

Postby Amy Kalteis 2F » Wed Jan 26, 2022 2:23 pm

Hi! In a closed system, energy can exchange with its surroundings, but not matter. An example of this would be a closed water bottle losing its energy (heat) to its surroundings, but the amount of water inside the bottle remains constant. In an isolated system, nothing exchanges with the surroundings. Both energy and matter remain constant.

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Re: difference between closed and isolated

Postby Katherine Li 1A » Wed Jan 26, 2022 4:48 pm

A closed system is not always isolated, because it can still exchange, for example, heat with its surroundings. An isolated system does not exchange anything with its surroundings.

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Re: difference between closed and isolated

Postby Tony Chen 1F » Wed Jan 26, 2022 6:12 pm

A closed system can exchange energy with its surrounding while an isolated system cannot exchange anything

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Re: difference between closed and isolated

Postby Prithvi Raj 3E » Thu Jan 27, 2022 12:29 pm

In a closed system, there can be an exchange of energy between the inside and the environment. In an isolated system, there would be no energy transfer between the environments.

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Re: difference between closed and isolated

Postby Ruben Adamov 1E » Thu Jan 27, 2022 3:53 pm

In an isolated system, nothing (energy and matter) can be exchanged with the surroundings. In a closed system, energy can be exchanged with its surroundings, but matter cannot.
Hope this helps!

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Re: difference between closed and isolated

Postby AnoushkaBhat2J » Fri Jan 28, 2022 4:26 pm

I was having a bit of trouble with this as well... In one of the textbook problems it says that coffee in a thermos bottle is an isolated system. I understand why a cold pack is a closed system (as it can absorb the heat from the surroundings), but for the first example doesn't the thermos bottle itself still technically feel hot when you first put the coffee inside it?

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Re: difference between closed and isolated

Postby Terrence Chi » Fri Jan 28, 2022 5:08 pm

Hi a closed system can only exchange energy with its surroundings however, an isolated system cannot exchange either matter or energy with its surroundings. Hope this helps!

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Re: difference between closed and isolated

Postby Nomi Heidari-Bateni 2K » Fri Jan 28, 2022 6:18 pm

A closed system is one where energy can be exchanged with the surroundings but matter cannot. An isolated system is one where nothing (neither energy nor matter) can be exchange with the surroundings. For example, a regular cup with a lid on it is a closed system but an insulated cup with a lid on it is an isolated system.

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Re: difference between closed and isolated

Postby Samantha Quevedo 2L » Sat Jan 29, 2022 5:00 pm

A closed system energy can be exchanged with its surroundings (however not matter). In an isolated system, energy cannot be exchanged with its surroundings.

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Re: difference between closed and isolated

Postby Preethika Praveen 2G » Sat Jan 29, 2022 8:27 pm

An isolated system cannot exchange matter or energy with its surroundings whereas a closed system can not exchange matter, but can exchange energy with its surroundings.

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Re: difference between closed and isolated

Postby Hannah Thornton 1F » Sat Jan 29, 2022 10:26 pm

A closed system can exchange energy with its surroundings, but not matter. An isolated system cannot exchange neither energy nor matter.

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Re: difference between closed and isolated

Postby A 3F » Sat Jan 29, 2022 11:42 pm

A closed system is a system in which matter cannot be exchanged with its surroundings, but energy can be. An isolated system is one in which neither matter nor energy can be exchanged with its surroundings.

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Re: difference between closed and isolated

Postby 505739628 » Sat Jan 29, 2022 11:53 pm

Hi! A closed system and isolated system both cannot transfer matter, however a closed system can transfer energy while an isolated system cannot. I found this textbook image to be really helpful in my understanding, so I will link it in case it helps!

https://jigsaw.macmillanlearning.com/bo ... _A_F04.png

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Re: difference between closed and isolated

Postby Coraly De Leon » Sun Jan 30, 2022 2:27 am

Hey !
The main difference is that an isolated system neither mass nor energy transfer occurs befween system and surroundings. In a closed system,mass and energy can only transfer with its surroundings.

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Re: difference between closed and isolated

Postby tristenleem3B » Sun Jan 30, 2022 2:49 am

A closed system can exchange energy with things around it, but an isolated cannot.

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Re: difference between closed and isolated

Postby Chelsea Tran 3H » Sun Jan 30, 2022 2:01 pm

I believe that a closed system can still exchange energy with its surroundings, whereas an isolated system cannot.

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Re: difference between closed and isolated

Postby 305616794 » Sun Jan 30, 2022 2:20 pm

In an open system matter or mass can flow in and out of the system such as oxygen gas. Energy can also enter or leave the system such as light or heat. In a closed system matter cannot flow into or out of the system. Oxygen gas won't be able to enter or leave. However, heat energy can still flow into and out of a closed system.

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Re: difference between closed and isolated

Postby Trisha Badjatia 2L » Sun Jan 30, 2022 5:13 pm

While both systems don't allow transfers of matter between the system and its surroundings, a closed system allows the transfer of energy between the system and the surroundings, while an insulated system does not allow that either.

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Re: difference between closed and isolated

Postby Genelle Marcelino-Searles 2G » Sun Jan 30, 2022 5:52 pm

In a closed system, energy can be exchanged with its surroundings, while in an isolated system, nothing can be exchanged.

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Re: difference between closed and isolated

Postby Brenda Tran 3C » Sun Jan 30, 2022 5:53 pm

A closed system has energy being transferred but not matter, while an isolated system has no matter nor energy being transferred. An example of a closed system can be a sealed beaker where one is able to heat the beaker to transfer heat energy, and an example of an isolate system is a thermos where no matter or energy is transferred.

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Re: difference between closed and isolated

Postby Madison Kiggins 1E » Sun Jan 30, 2022 6:01 pm

Hi, I believe the difference between the two is that while both have a fixed amount of matter, a closed system can exchange energy with its surroundings, but an isolated system cannot exchange matter or energy with its surroundings. So, generally speaking, a closed system is able to exchange energy, while an isolated system cannot exchange anything.

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Re: difference between closed and isolated

Postby HemangD 3K » Sun Jan 30, 2022 6:49 pm

In a closed system, only energy can exchange with the surroundings (matter cannot) in the form of heat or work. In an isolated system, neither matter nor energy can exchange with the surroundings.

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Re: difference between closed and isolated

Postby Tara Cumiskey 3K » Sun Jan 30, 2022 7:30 pm

The difference is that a closed system can exchange energy with its surroundings, but an isolated system cannot exchange matter or energy.


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