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Degeneracy

Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2019 3:07 pm
by Fiona Jackson 1D
Could someone explain what degeneracy tells us and how it can be used? I am still unclear on the topic.

Re: Degeneracy

Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2019 3:16 pm
by Reva Kakaria 1J
Basically, degeneracy is the number of states in which energy can be at a given level. If a given particle can only be at a certain energy level in one particular state (i.e. if it moves, its energy level changes), then it has a degeneracy of 1. Going back to the example Professor Lavelle gave in class, if a particle can exist at the same energy level on both the right side and the left side of a flask, it has a degeneracy of 2, because there are two ways in which it can be at one energy level. Degeneracy can be used to calculate entropy, and if we know that there is a high degeneracy, we also know that there is high entropy.

Re: Degeneracy

Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2019 3:16 pm
by Kristen Kim 2K
Degeneracy is the number of ways of achieving a given energy state, and can be found by relation of the Boltzmann equation.

Re: Degeneracy

Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2019 3:22 pm
by Brian Hom 2F
Degeneracy (W) is the number of ways of achieving a given energy state. This value is important because when using the Blotzman equation S=kB lnW, degeneracy can help find the entropy of the system.

Re: Degeneracy

Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2019 3:53 pm
by Patrick Cai 1L
A good equation mentioned today in lecture for calculating the number of possible degenerate state was the formula , useful to determining all possible microstates of different and separate particles.

Re: Degeneracy

Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2019 4:29 pm
by Cody Do 2F
In essence, degeneracy refers to how many states available for one energy level. For example, in class, we briefly spoke about the molecule CH3Cl. As the Cl atom can be in one of four different locations (as the CH3Cl molecule is tetrahedral), it has a degeneracy of 4. However, the molecule CH4 has a degeneracy of one simply because all the configurations for the molecule are the same (central carbon and four hydrogens).

Re: Degeneracy

Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2019 3:48 pm
by Summer de Vera 2C
Patrick Cai 1L wrote:A good equation mentioned today in lecture for calculating the number of possible degenerate state was the formula , useful to determining all possible microstates of different and separate particles.

Does W = 2^n apply specifically to the problem we did in class? Or is it a general formula?

Re: Degeneracy

Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2019 5:08 pm
by 105169446
I am still confused as to what exactly the difference between degeneracy and entropy? Don't both of these concepts relate to disorder in a system?

Re: Degeneracy

Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2019 10:08 am
by Reva Kakaria 1J
105169446 wrote:I am still confused as to what exactly the difference between degeneracy and entropy? Don't both of these concepts relate to disorder in a system?


While both of them relate to disorder, degeneracy is just the number of states a system has that are the same energy level. Entropy, however, is the degree of disorder in a system. Entropy can be calculated using degeneracy in the equation S = Kb x ln(W). The higher the degeneracy a system has, the higher its maximum entropy will be, because it will have many different possible states and can be very disordered.