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work

Postby emmaferry2D » Tue Feb 16, 2021 4:54 pm

to clarify,
when work is done ON the system, it is negative and when work is done BY the system it is positive?

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Re: work

Postby EnricoArambulo3H » Tue Feb 16, 2021 4:58 pm

It would be the opposite, if work was done on the system w>0. Think of the idea in terms of compression and expansion: you need to put energy into the system to compress it (positive work/work done onto the system), while a vessel would need to perform work on its own to expand (negative work/work done by system). I hope this helps!

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Re: work

Postby Massimo_Capozza_1G » Tue Feb 16, 2021 5:09 pm

If energy or "work" is released from the system, it is an exothermic process, but if energy or work is put into the system then it is endothermic

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Re: work

Postby Katie_Dinh_1D » Tue Feb 16, 2021 5:47 pm

work would be negative if it is done by the system—the system is losing energy because it is doing work. Likewise, if work is being applied to the system, this would be a positive value since the system is gaining energy in the form of work!

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Re: work

Postby Ephrem Gerald 2A » Tue Feb 16, 2021 6:30 pm

When work is done on the system, you are inputting energy so the sign of the work would be positive, and if the system itself is doing work (such as to raise a piston) it loses energy in the process because it requires some force and some amount of energy to push an object like a piston for example.

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Re: work

Postby Chudi Onyedika 3A » Sun Feb 28, 2021 3:46 pm

If work is done on the system, the sign is positive. If the system itself does work, then the sign becomes negative.

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Re: work

Postby Charisma Arreola 2F » Sun Feb 28, 2021 4:04 pm

An exothermic reaction has energy escaping, whereas endothermic takes in energy and heat.

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Re: work

Postby Wasila Sun 2I » Sun Feb 28, 2021 4:16 pm

Work done on the system is positive, and work done BY the system is negative. This is because when the system is doing work it spends/loses energy to expand against exteral pressure so it would be negative. The opposite is true because energy is then inputted into the system when work is being done on it.

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Re: work

Postby manisha_joseph_1H » Sun Feb 28, 2021 5:03 pm

When work is done on the system, the value of w is positive, When work is done by the system, the value of w is negative.

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Re: work

Postby Arnav Saud 2C » Sun Feb 28, 2021 5:41 pm

When work is done on the system, it's positive.
When the system does work, it's negative.

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Re: work

Postby Bai Rong Lin 2K » Sun Feb 28, 2021 11:03 pm

I believe it is the exact opposite to what you have stated in the question.

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Re: work

Postby Mina Tadros 3L » Sun Feb 28, 2021 11:06 pm

When work is done on the system, the work is positive, but when the system does work, the work is negative.

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Re: work

Postby Kushaal Madadi 2F » Sun Feb 28, 2021 11:07 pm

Nope, it is the opposite. In chemistry, we take the perspective of the system. When a system does work, it is losing internal energy, and so work is negative. When work is done on a system, its internal energy increases, so work is positive.

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Re: work

Postby Hannah Lechtzin 1K » Sun Feb 28, 2021 11:14 pm

Its actually the other way around. When work is done by the system it releases energy (negative). When work is done on the system the system is being given energy (positive). One way I think about it is if I do school work, I am turning in my assignments (losing them, negative). If I am being given school work, I am gaining more assignments (gaining them, positive). I know school work is unrelated to chemistry definitions, but sometimes it nice to have another way to think about things like that.

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Re: work

Postby IshanModiDis2L » Sun Feb 28, 2021 11:16 pm

When work is done on the system, the work is a positive value. When the system itself does work, the work is negative.

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Re: work

Postby Jack_Pearce_2H » Sun Feb 28, 2021 11:17 pm

actually, when work is done on the system it is positive and when it is done by the system it is negative. I know it is a weird way to look at it but I like to think work is being "lost" by the system when it is being DONE by the system, and vice versa. When work is being done ON the system, work is "gained" by the system. It might not make a lot of sense but if you can establish the signs through this logic its easier to apply the equations later on and solve for other components.

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Re: work

Postby Mariah Disc 2C » Sun Feb 28, 2021 11:18 pm

It is the opposite !

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Re: work

Postby Chinmayi Mutyala 3H » Sun Feb 28, 2021 11:33 pm

When work is done on the system, it is positive and when work is done BY the system it is negative since the system is using energy to do work. Hope that makes sense!

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Re: work

Postby Susan Chamling 1F » Mon Mar 01, 2021 1:43 am

I believe it's actually the opposite, so when work is being done by the system, it is negative since the system loses energy. In contrast, when work is being done on the system, it is positive since the system gains energy.

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Re: work

Postby Jeremy Wei 2C » Mon Mar 01, 2021 6:18 am

Actually it's the opposite!

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Re: work

Postby Edgar Velazquez 2K » Sun Mar 14, 2021 11:26 pm

It's actually the opposite. Work done ON the system is positive. Work done BY the system is negative.

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Re: work

Postby Eric Sun 2G » Sat Jan 22, 2022 3:47 pm

When work is done on the system, the work is positive since work is being put into the system. However, when the system does work, the work is negative since work is leaving the system.


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