Different entropy measures 4.37

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Jeffrey Hablewitz 2I
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Different entropy measures 4.37

Postby Jeffrey Hablewitz 2I » Thu Feb 18, 2021 10:47 am

What is the difference between ΔS and ΔStotal? And why is ΔStotal always greater than 0 in a spontaneous process if ΔS is necessarily positive in a spontaneous reaction?

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Re: Different entropy measures 4.37

Postby Lillian Ma 1I » Thu Feb 18, 2021 11:53 am

I think ΔStotal refers to the ΔS of both the system and the surroundings added up. The requirement for a process to be spontaneous is for ΔStotal to be positive, however ΔS does not have to be positive in order for the process to be spontaneous because the other ΔS of either the system or the surrounding can bring ΔStotal back up to being positive. I hope this helped!

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Re: Different entropy measures 4.37

Postby Jeffrey Hablewitz 2I » Thu Feb 18, 2021 1:55 pm

Thanks! That was very helpful.

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Re: Different entropy measures 4.37

Postby Daniel Huynh 2J » Thu Feb 18, 2021 2:12 pm

Plus, in an equation ΔS usually refers to the system (the sys at the end is dropped).

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Re: Different entropy measures 4.37

Postby Susanna Givan 2B » Sun Mar 14, 2021 10:15 pm

Delta S total is about the total entropy of the surroundings and the system and Delta S is just about the system you are referring to.


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