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using Pv=nrt

Postby Andrew Sun 3F » Fri Feb 04, 2022 10:58 pm

When can I use PV=nRT? I thought that since it's called the ideal gas law the conditions had to be ideal (pressure and temperature).

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Re: using Pv=nrt

Postby Sunny Hou 2I » Fri Feb 04, 2022 11:47 pm

Hi,
Yes, the ideal gas law is only supposed to be used when it's an ideal gas at play, but normally we just assume that the real gases behave in a way that is sufficiently similar to an ideal gas. So I think in general if you don't have changes in temperature or volume it's safe to use the ideal gas law, given that you know the values of the constants.
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Re: using Pv=nrt

Postby Noah Ho 1F » Sat Feb 05, 2022 1:15 am

For PV=nRT the assumptions that we have in order to use it is that the pressure if low and the temperature is very high. We also have to assume that the collisions between gas molecules are elastic. In general, I think it's ok to use PV=nRT for the entirety of this class since we haven't really discussed any other alternative.

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Re: using Pv=nrt

Postby Dana Sorensen 1C » Sat Feb 05, 2022 11:06 am

For calculations we just assume that all gases we will see will behave like ideal gases in this class, though I believe to use it it should be that the assumptions are low pressure and high temp.

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Re: using Pv=nrt

Postby Shannon Lau 14B - 1H » Sat Feb 05, 2022 11:24 am

We use this equation when we are trying to find pressure or volume because when one is changing the other should be a constant. You should also be given the temperature unless that is what you are trying to find if given the constant pressure and volume. n = the amount of moles or grams (depends what is given) and R is a constant that can be found on your equation sheet and with the information given you can figure out which R to use based on the units you are trying to cancel out.

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Re: using Pv=nrt

Postby Riya Sawhney 1C » Sat Feb 19, 2022 9:55 pm

Hi, in this class we assume that all gases behave as ideal gases. When the temperature is high and the pressure is low, the gas will behave closer to an ideal gas, making PV=nRT more accurate, but we will use it regardless.

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Re: using Pv=nrt

Postby gracebinder3I » Sun Feb 27, 2022 11:48 am

Hi!
The Ideal Gas Law can be used to solve for pressure, volume, temperature, or number of moles when needed. In calculation, we assume that gases behave ideally to broadly apply this equation.
In thermodynamics, we usually use the Ideal Gas Law to solve for pressure in finding work or to plug into the equation w = -PdeltaV = -nRT ln(V2/V1).
I hope this helps!

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Re: using Pv=nrt

Postby 005493723 » Sun Feb 27, 2022 12:12 pm

Unless otherwise stated we can often make the assumption that it is an ideal gas and we can therefore use that equation.

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Re: using Pv=nrt

Postby Bela Patel 2B » Sun Feb 27, 2022 1:53 pm

You are right, in the ideal gas law the conditions has to be ideal and it can be used whenever you don't have changes in temperature or volume and you know the values of the constants and most of the other values in the equation.

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Re: using Pv=nrt

Postby Allen Lu 2F » Sun Feb 27, 2022 11:20 pm

I remember from lecture that we can assume that all gases act like ideal gases in this course. Therefore we can assume that using PV=nRT is a valid equation to use.

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Re: using Pv=nrt

Postby Kaitlyn_Urquilla_1I » Sun Feb 27, 2022 11:23 pm

In this class, I think we can assume that all of gases will behave like ideal gases. Usually, PV=nRT would be used when the pressure is low and the temperature is high though.

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Re: using Pv=nrt

Postby riddhiparikh » Sat Mar 12, 2022 10:44 pm

The equation PV=nRT applies only to an ideal gas, or as an approximation to a real gas that behaves sufficiently like an ideal gas. When you are given 3 of the 4 properties in the equation aka pressure, volume, number of moles, and temperature (R is a constant), then the ideal gas law can be used.

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Re: using Pv=nrt

Postby Esther Kim » Sun Mar 13, 2022 8:42 am

Lavelle said that we can assume that all gases act as ideal gases in this course so Pv=nrt can be used

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Re: using Pv=nrt

Postby Edriana J Altea 2G » Sun Mar 13, 2022 9:16 pm

I agree with everyone because all gases are ideal gases so then it is valid to use Pv=nrt.

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Re: using Pv=nrt

Postby 405690892 » Wed Jan 25, 2023 3:57 pm

PV=nRT is used for ideal gases, and something I learned in discussion is we can manipulate the equation to solve for whichever variable we need. For instance, if we needed to find the pressure, we can divide nRT by V to do so.

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Re: using Pv=nrt

Postby BeauBrown » Mon Jan 30, 2023 11:04 am

Usually n/v is isolated as n/V= M(mol/Liter) and R is constant, in case pressure or temperature is needed

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Re: using Pv=nrt

Postby Allie Kinsey 3H » Thu Feb 02, 2023 10:39 pm

Does anyone know how the ideal gas law tie into heat transfer and enthalpy?

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Re: using Pv=nrt

Postby Emily Lam 2H » Fri Feb 03, 2023 1:35 am

I feel like you would use this equation most when trying to find the pressure of the system.


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