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Gabriel Ordonez 2K
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Postby Gabriel Ordonez 2K » Thu Feb 13, 2020 2:59 pm

What's the difference in the work equations with their corresponding Delta S equations when one path is reversible and when the other is irreversible?

Eunice Nguyen 4I
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Re: Work

Postby Eunice Nguyen 4I » Thu Feb 13, 2020 4:25 pm

When it's irreversible, the equation for work is w=-Pex*deltaV or -deltan*R*T. When it's reversible, the equation is w=-n*R*T*ln(vf/vi).

Anna Heckler 2C
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Re: Work

Postby Anna Heckler 2C » Thu Feb 13, 2020 4:42 pm

When you are finding the work done in a reversible pathway, you must find the sum of a series of infinitesimal steps, which can be accomplished using an integral. The work done by an irreversible pathway involves a rapid change in volume and pressure, so a different formula is used.

Alicia Lin 2F
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Re: Work

Postby Alicia Lin 2F » Thu Feb 13, 2020 4:46 pm

delta S equations are the same for both reversible and irreversible. The only difference is that for the irreversible one, S(surr)=0 which makes S(tot)=S(sys) while in the reversible one, S(sys)=-S(surr) which means S(tot)=0

Leslie Almaraz 4G
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Re: Work

Postby Leslie Almaraz 4G » Thu Feb 13, 2020 7:37 pm

Is irreversible always sudden?

Connie Chen 1E
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Re: Work

Postby Connie Chen 1E » Thu Feb 13, 2020 7:53 pm

Leslie Almaraz 4G wrote:Is irreversible always sudden?

Generally, irreversible expansions are quicker than reversible ones because they do not have be changed by an infinitesimally small amount at a time. However, this doesn't always mean that they are very sudden.

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