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Irreversible and Reversible Expanision

Posted: Sun Feb 16, 2020 7:13 pm
by Andrea_Torres
What is irreversible and reversible expansion? How do we know which is which when faced with a problem?

Re: Irreversible and Reversible Expanision

Posted: Sun Feb 16, 2020 7:19 pm
by Daniel Honeychurch1C
Usually the problem will tell you. If not, in reversible expansion, the pressure of the system equals the external pressure (which decreases during the expansion). In irreversible expansion, the external pressure is constant.

Re: Irreversible and Reversible Expanision

Posted: Sun Feb 16, 2020 7:24 pm
by Kylie Lim 4G
In irreversible expansion, there is a sudden significant change in external pressure that allows the contents of the system to expand. In a reversible expansion, external pressure is reduced gradually and in small increments so that Pexternal = Psystem. Usually in problems it will state whether it is a reversible or irreversible reaction.

Re: Irreversible and Reversible Expanision

Posted: Sun Feb 16, 2020 9:06 pm
by Nick Lewis 4F
How can you differentiate when to use -nRlnV2/V1 versus using -PV? I feel like I always get mixed up when I should use which equation. Any tips for knowing which one to use when?

Re: Irreversible and Reversible Expanision

Posted: Sun Feb 16, 2020 9:19 pm
by TarynD_1I
Nick Lewis 4F wrote:How can you differentiate when to use -nRlnV2/V1 versus using -PV? I feel like I always get mixed up when I should use which equation. Any tips for knowing which one to use when?


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this is the link to a chart that a TA made that really helped me distinguish which equation to use when

Re: Irreversible and Reversible Expanision

Posted: Mon Feb 24, 2020 10:44 am
by lauraxie2e
it usually will tell you if it is irreversible or reversible

Re: Irreversible and Reversible Expanision

Posted: Fri Feb 28, 2020 3:59 pm
by Gurmukhi Bevli 4G
Generally the problem should specify which one it is. If not, for a reversible expansion, Psystem = external pressure, which will decrease as the expansion takes place. For an irreversible expansion, the external pressure will be constant.

Re: Irreversible and Reversible Expanision

Posted: Fri Feb 28, 2020 6:19 pm
by Altamash Mahsud 1I
In an irreversible expansion, the external pressure on something has changed a huge (relative) amount in a short span of time. For an irreversible expansion, the external pressure is constant. For a reversible expansion, the internal and external pressure change in small, infinitesimal increments so that when the internal pressure changes, the external pressure reacts to that change in a similar way (and vice versa). This means that the internal pressure (pressure of the system) equals the external pressure the whole way through (Psystem = Pexternal). When given a problem about gaseous expansion, the problem will tell you whether it is an irreversible or a reversible expansion.

Re: Irreversible and Reversible Expanision

Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2020 5:25 pm
by Cindy Adiwidjaja 1B
So far, we have only been exposed to questions that has this information given.

Re: Irreversible and Reversible Expanision

Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2020 5:28 pm
by Robert Tran 1B
In addition to what has already been said, for a reversible expansion, there is heat transfer to maintain the temperature. However, for an irreversible expansion, there is no heat transfer because the change occurs too quickly.