R constant of an Ideal Gas


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R constant of an Ideal Gas

Postby Bronson Mathos 1H » Sun Feb 07, 2021 9:32 pm

Hello, I found myself a bit lost on the Sapling homework when working on work equations as I was always unsure of which R constant to insert for the Ideal Gas Law, and I was wondering if someone could explain how to know which R value to use when solving these questions.

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Re: R constant of an Ideal Gas

Postby Sophia Stewart 3F » Sun Feb 07, 2021 9:35 pm

I'd recommend writing out the units of everything in the equation you are using. For example, write out that n is in moles, that temperature is in K (or *C).. and so on. Then from that, consult the equation sheet and look at which R value has units that match the others in the equation and would therefore cancel them out.

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Re: R constant of an Ideal Gas

Postby Kyle_Lee_2B » Sun Feb 07, 2021 9:36 pm

when using the r constant you need to know what you are working with. For instance, you would need to use the r constant of 8.314472 L*pKa/k*mol in pv=nrt, if your p value is using pKa rather than atm. look at the surrounding units in the equation and make sure that the r constant is either getting rid of or adding the correct unit when you reach your answer.

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Re: R constant of an Ideal Gas

Postby Kelly Ha 1K » Sun Feb 07, 2021 9:38 pm

I definitely had this problem at first too! Basically just always check your units; make sure the correct units cancel out to leave you with your desired value. It helps to write out all the units of the values when calculating so you can double check you picked the right R to use.

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Re: R constant of an Ideal Gas

Postby Alejandro Gonzalez 2G » Sun Feb 07, 2021 11:59 pm

I usually try to look at the units in order to see which R constant to use (atm vs J).

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Re: R constant of an Ideal Gas

Postby Eileen Quach Dis 2A » Mon Feb 08, 2021 1:15 pm

On the equation sheet, looking at the multiple possible values for R, you can look at what units are being used and plug that into whatever problem you're solving to see if the units cancel.

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Re: R constant of an Ideal Gas

Postby Kyle_Lee_2B » Sun Feb 21, 2021 10:26 pm

when you are writing the equation, practice writing all the units. this way you can know what unit you need to find, for instance, V will be L and P will be atm, so your answer must have the unit you are solving for, nothing more nothing less. The different R values have diff units so as long as your units are canceling when you need them to cancel and you end up with the end unit, that was the correct r value.

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Re: R constant of an Ideal Gas

Postby Darlene Lien 3E » Sun Feb 21, 2021 10:47 pm

I also agree with the above comments! I just use the ones that would cancel out the units.

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Re: R constant of an Ideal Gas

Postby Samir 3I » Sun Feb 21, 2021 10:51 pm

This is why it is important and very helpful to write out the units for every value you are using in an equation. Personally, I like to plug in all of the values (with units) that I know into the equation I am using and save the gas constant (R) for last. Then I look at my equations sheets and find which variation of the gas constant will cancel out the units I see in my written out equation.

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Re: R constant of an Ideal Gas

Postby Crystal Pan 2G » Sun Feb 21, 2021 10:53 pm

You will typically use the gas constant according to what is given in the problem. You want to cancel out units that are not in the final answer.

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Re: R constant of an Ideal Gas

Postby Madeline Ogden 3B » Mon Feb 22, 2021 2:14 pm

I agree with the other comments! Typically, the first unit I try to look for is liters and atm, as this is a way of telling you that you have to use 0.08206 instead of 8.314 since these two units typically cancel out. Hope this helps!

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Re: R constant of an Ideal Gas

Postby Tiao Tan 3C » Tue Feb 23, 2021 11:10 pm

I usually pay attention to the units given in the question and the units the answer want us to use. If the question gives volume in liters and pressure in atm, then I would use the R constant that has units L and atm. If the questions further asks for joules, remember to convert your answer in L*atm to J.

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Re: R constant of an Ideal Gas

Postby Michelle Nguyen 3F » Sun Feb 28, 2021 1:56 am

Write out the units of the problem from the given measurements or data recorded! Depending on which units you have, you can use the right R for the problem :)

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Re: R constant of an Ideal Gas

Postby Evonne Hsu 1J » Sun Feb 28, 2021 3:27 pm

Pay attention to the units indicated in the question and you can determine which R to use (R for LatmJ/cal/torr/etc).

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Re: R constant of an Ideal Gas

Postby Nan_Guan_1L » Sun Feb 28, 2021 10:28 pm

Basically what matters is the unit of R. So you would want to take a look at the units you have got and the unit you want to end up with. Usually R could fix the difference between the units and you would just select the R value with the proper units.

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Re: R constant of an Ideal Gas

Postby Jeremy Wei 2C » Mon Mar 01, 2021 6:17 am

Hi! For me I would look at the units for the R constants given and see which R value's units best fit the equation you are using.

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Re: R constant of an Ideal Gas

Postby Kathy_Li_1H » Mon Mar 08, 2021 10:13 am

Hi! For me what's worked best has been just looking at what units you need for the end result and adjusting accordingly.


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