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Given q and w, will a gas's pressure increase or decrease?

Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2017 9:57 am
by Michael_Johanis_2K
From 2007 Midterm:
Given that a a gas sample expands, doing 536 kJ of work, while 214 kJ of heat is added to the gas:

a) Calculate DeltaU
b) Will the pressure of the gas be higher or lower when these changes are completed?

I understand Part A:
a) DeltaU = q + w. q is +214 kJ since the heat is ADDED to the gas. w is -536 kJ because the gas is DOING the work and EXPANDING. So DeltaU = 214kJ - 536 kJ. Therefore, DeltaU = -322 kJ.

However, I do not understand Part B. I know that the internal energy change is negative. What is the relationship between DeltaU and Pressure? I can think of PV = nRT. The moles are constant and R is a constant. How can I say that P changes, and in which direction?

Thank you.

Re: Given q and w, will a gas's pressure increase or decrease?

Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2017 10:41 am
by Vivian Wang 3J
It is reasonable to say that the pressure is decreasing because the gas is expanding.

Re: Given q and w, will a gas's pressure increase or decrease?

Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2017 1:43 pm
by Michael_Johanis_2K
Are DeltaU and q not important? Does it only matter that w is negative (gas expands)?

Re: Given q and w, will a gas's pressure increase or decrease?  [ENDORSED]

Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2017 11:00 pm
by Chem_Mod
If q = w, then = 0. When = 0, there is no change in temperature. However, since q < w, the temperature of the gas decreased. Using the relation PV=nRT, since the volume is increasing (expansion) and the temperature must be decreasing (q < w), in order for both sides of the equation to be equal, the pressure must decrease. Therefore, the pressure of the gas will be lower.

Re: Given q and w, will a gas's pressure increase or decrease?

Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2017 12:39 am
by Michael_Johanis_2K
Thank you! But what if q = -501 kJ and w = 500 kJ (compression)?

Delta U = -1 kJ

PV = nRT
The temperature decreases since DeltaU = negative. The volume decreased since this is compression.
If T goes down, V goes down, n is constant, and R is constant, what happens to P?