confusion on using Cp and Cv


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confusion on using Cp and Cv

Postby Catherine Bubser 2C » Mon Feb 15, 2021 3:28 pm

Do we use Cp when we are told the pressure is constant or when we are told the volume is constant? I know it means "constant pressure", but if anyone has an example of a question that directly points to us using Cp versus Cv could you please respond with it?

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Re: confusion on using Cp and Cv

Postby Kiran Singh 3A » Mon Feb 15, 2021 3:33 pm

We use Cp when told that the pressure is constant and Cv when told that the volume is constant. The C part is referring to the heat capacity, and the p and v are referring to what is being held constant. Hope this clears up some confusion. Problem 4.C.3 in the textbook uses both Cp and Cv, so you might want to check it out.

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Re: confusion on using Cp and Cv

Postby Jessica Katz » Mon Feb 15, 2021 4:18 pm

To add onto the relationship between Cp and Cv, Cp = Cv + R so the other can be found when given one. The usage of either Cp and Cv will depend on which is constant like people mentioned above.

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Re: confusion on using Cp and Cv

Postby MinjooPark_3I » Mon Feb 15, 2021 4:24 pm

What I like to do is I use the one that is mentioned in the problem. If the question is focusing on volume I use Cp and when it is focusing on pressure I use Cp. Although we may be given the initial and final volumes/pressures in the question, when we calculate using the Cv of Cp, we assume the volume/pressure change already occurred and that they are constant.

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Re: confusion on using Cp and Cv

Postby Brandon Pham 1H » Mon Feb 15, 2021 5:16 pm

Cp = Heat capacity at constant pressure
Cv = Heat capacity at constant volume

The problem will most likely give you one of these values

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Re: confusion on using Cp and Cv

Postby Madison Wong 3H » Mon Feb 15, 2021 6:09 pm

Cp is the heat capacity at constant pressure, and Cv is the heat capacity at constant volume. They are related by the equation Cp = Cv + R.

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Re: confusion on using Cp and Cv

Postby Lauren Sarigumba 1K » Mon Feb 15, 2021 7:04 pm

Cp is the heat capacity at constant pressure while Cv is the heat capacity at constant volume.

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Re: confusion on using Cp and Cv

Postby Gabriel Nitro 1E » Mon Feb 15, 2021 7:50 pm

Hi,

Yes! Recall, C refers to the heat capacity, or the amount of heat to raise the temperature of a substance by 1 unit of temperature. The subscript "P" or "V" is indicative of what variable we are assuming is constant.

If it is "C_p," then it is the heat capacity at constant pressure. If it is "C_v," then it is the heat capacity at constant volume.

Hope this helps! :)

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Re: confusion on using Cp and Cv

Postby Cora Chun 2D » Mon Feb 15, 2021 9:01 pm

Hi, Cp is when pressure is constant and Cv is when volume is constant. You can tell by looking at the subscript next to the "C". Hope this helps!

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Re: confusion on using Cp and Cv

Postby Hasan Mirza 3F » Mon Feb 15, 2021 9:54 pm

Cp is used with constant pressure and Cv is used with constant volume.

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Re: confusion on using Cp and Cv

Postby Jason Knight - 1F » Mon Feb 15, 2021 9:57 pm

Cp is the heat capacity value for constant pressure and Cv is the heat capacity value for constant volume. We will typically use these values when the problem explicitly states when the system is under conditions of constant pressure or value, but keep an eye out if ideal gas conditions are also described.

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Re: confusion on using Cp and Cv

Postby Mursall M 2A » Mon Feb 15, 2021 10:16 pm

Cp is used when it is mentioned that there is constant pressure, and Cv is used when it is mentioned that there is constant volume!

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Re: confusion on using Cp and Cv

Postby Tobie Jessup 2E » Tue Feb 16, 2021 11:28 pm

Cp is used under conditions of constant pressure and Cv is used under conditions of constant volume.

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Re: confusion on using Cp and Cv

Postby Vanessa Perez » Wed Feb 17, 2021 12:23 am

We use Cp when pressure is constant and Cv when volume is constant. Remember the difference between diatomic and monatomic

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Re: confusion on using Cp and Cv

Postby RyanKopeikin_2I » Wed Feb 17, 2021 9:48 pm

Cp is used for conditions of constant pressure, and Cv is used for conditions of constant volume.

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Re: confusion on using Cp and Cv

Postby RyanKopeikin_2I » Wed Feb 17, 2021 9:48 pm

Cp is used for conditions of constant pressure, and Cv is used for conditions of constant volume.

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Re: confusion on using Cp and Cv

Postby Brian_Wu_3B » Thu Feb 18, 2021 4:31 pm

Usually you find theneed to use Cp or Cv when looking at changes in entropy when temperature varies. When temperature varies, the problem usually keeps either pressure or volume constant. If pressure is constant, then Cp is used. If volume is constant, then Cv is used.

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Re: confusion on using Cp and Cv

Postby Katelynn Shaheen 2C » Thu Feb 18, 2021 7:22 pm

Cp is the heat capacity when pressure is constant and Cv is the heat capacity when volume is constant. They are used in the equation Cp=Cv+R.

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Re: confusion on using Cp and Cv

Postby Britney Tran IJ » Sun Feb 21, 2021 2:26 am

Cp is for conditions with constant pressure, and Cv is for conditions with constant volume

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Re: confusion on using Cp and Cv

Postby Nina Fukui 2J » Sun Feb 21, 2021 6:00 am

Cp is for when the pressure is constant and Cv is for when the volume is constant. They're usually given and if the question mentions that the gas is ideal, then the values can be found on the formula sheet

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Re: confusion on using Cp and Cv

Postby Navdha Sharma 3J » Sun Feb 21, 2021 7:57 am

Cp is the heat capacity at constant pressure while Cv is the heat capacity at constant volume.
Also, Cp = Cv + R

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Re: confusion on using Cp and Cv

Postby BoparaiAdeshsurjit2F » Thu Feb 25, 2021 10:27 am

The C means heat capacity

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Re: confusion on using Cp and Cv

Postby Nan_Guan_1L » Sun Feb 28, 2021 10:26 pm

Cp=Cv + R. Cp refers to the conditions under constant pressure, Cv refers to constant volume. If you take a look at the textbook problems you’ll find abundant examples

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Re: confusion on using Cp and Cv

Postby DPatel_2L » Sat Mar 06, 2021 6:30 pm

Cp is heat capacity at a constant pressure while Cv is heat capacity at constant volume.

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Re: confusion on using Cp and Cv

Postby Jacob Schwarz-Discussion 3I » Sat Mar 13, 2021 11:28 pm

The relationship between Cp and Cv is that Cp=Cv+R


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