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Postby Ya Gao » Thu Feb 01, 2018 12:40 am

Can someone explain why ∆S=q/T=nR ln(V2/V1)? I know that ∆S=klnW2/W1, so does nR equals k then?

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Re: ∆S=q/T

Postby Sarah_Stay_1D » Thu Feb 01, 2018 11:12 am

Ya Gao wrote:Can someone explain why ∆S=q/T=nR ln(V2/V1)? I know that ∆S=klnW2/W1, so does nR equals k then?

I cannot recall whether Lavelle went through in lecture how to derive the equation ∆S=nRln(V2/V1), however it is simply another way to calculate the entropy of the system. However this equation allows you to look at a system that is changing in volume. The other formula you are referring to is not ∆S=klnW2?W1. I believe what you are referring to is S=KblnW (where Kb is the Boltzmann constant, and W is the degeneracy, also notice it is just S, not ∆S). The variable k typically represents the equilibrium constant which is different for different reactions. You can find the equilibrium constant using the equation either the way we learned in 14A, or using the equation ∆G=-RTlnK.

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Re: ∆S=q/T

Postby Chem_Mod » Thu Feb 01, 2018 12:58 pm

For the first derivation we get,

We get this from reversible work being done by an isothermal system (ie- T is constant, , q=-w).

Now we use the substitution to get

and notice the temperature cancels.


Last thing is to integrate and use a law of logs to acheive our derived equation,

You can find this derivation and a useful blurb in your text book on page 323.

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