Entropy of Surroundings vs. System


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Angela 1K
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Entropy of Surroundings vs. System

Postby Angela 1K » Sat Mar 17, 2018 1:25 am

When can you tell if the entropy of the surroundings/system is supposed to be positive/negative?

Like in problem 9.45, it asks to find of the systems and surroundings for the following situations:
(a) vaporization of 1.00 mol CH4(l) at its normal BP
(b) melting of 1.00 mol C2H5OH(s) at its normal MP
(c) freezing of 1.00 mol C2H5OH(l) at its normal FP

How can you tell when to use or ?

Thanks in advance!

Diego Zavala 2I
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Re: Entropy of Surroundings vs. System

Postby Diego Zavala 2I » Sat Mar 17, 2018 1:38 am

Hi,
If a system is going from a solid state to liqud or liquid to vapor, then the entropy (disorder) of the system increases.
Similarly, if a system is going from vapor to liquid or liquid to solid, then the entropy of the system decreases. Futhermore, because the entropy of the universe must always increase, it can be concluded that the entropy of the surroundings increased by more than the decrease in entropy of the system.

melissa carey 1f
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Re: Entropy of Surroundings vs. System

Postby melissa carey 1f » Sat Mar 17, 2018 11:23 am

When you ADD heat, ∆H is +. Ex - adding heat to boil water has +∆H, so ∆S = +∆H/T.


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