Entropy at 0 K


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melissa_dis4K
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Entropy at 0 K

Postby melissa_dis4K » Wed Feb 13, 2019 12:57 am

Can someone please explain why molecules do have entropy at 0 Kelvin and what that entropy is? Thank you!

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Re: Entropy at 0 K

Postby AnnaYan_1l » Wed Feb 13, 2019 1:04 am

Molecules that are perfectly ordered have no entropy at 0K (ex. CH4). For molecules that are not perfectly ordered, there is positional/residual entropy at 0K.

Luc Lorain 1L
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Re: Entropy at 0 K

Postby Luc Lorain 1L » Wed Feb 13, 2019 2:28 am

AnnaYan_1l wrote:Molecules that are perfectly ordered have no entropy at 0K (ex. CH4). For molecules that are not perfectly ordered, there is positional/residual entropy at 0K.


Expanding on this, molecules that possess residual energy maintain some sort of entropy through positional, rather than kinetic or thermal-related entropy. This can occur from a molecule being asymmetrical in structure, or even just unorganized (not a perfect crystal structure), and derive entropy from their degeneracy. We have an equation to calculate this value: , where W=degeneracy of the sample. This makes entropy easy to calculate for simple molecules smaller systems, but near to impossible for very complex molecules in very large systems.

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Re: Entropy at 0 K

Postby MackenziePerillo-1L » Sat Feb 23, 2019 11:06 pm

0K will additionally almost never appear in nature, therefore when referring to entropy at 0K, it is mostly used for conceptual limits.

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Re: Entropy at 0 K

Postby shaunajava2e » Sun Feb 24, 2019 5:09 pm

are we assuming temperature is never below 0K?


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