Degeneracy

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Dakota_Campbell_1C
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Degeneracy

Postby Dakota_Campbell_1C » Thu Feb 14, 2019 9:52 pm

When solving for degeneracy when is W equal to 0. There was a problem on the Midterm that I had seemed to misinterpret.

Emmaraf 1K
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Re: Degeneracy

Postby Emmaraf 1K » Thu Feb 14, 2019 9:57 pm

Degeneracy never equals 0 since having a degeneracy equal to 0 is like saying something doesn't have a single state which it can occupy aka it doesn't exist. The question on the midterm I believe you are thinking about had a degeneracy=1 so entropy=0 because S=klnW and lnW = 0. The molecule could only exist in a single state and as a result wasn't disordered.

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Re: Degeneracy

Postby amogha_koka3I » Sat Feb 16, 2019 3:10 pm

So the lowest level of degeneracy we will encounter is 1?

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Re: Degeneracy

Postby Julia Go 2L » Sat Feb 16, 2019 4:31 pm

Yes, the lowest level of degeneracy is W=1.

Thus when we plug W=1 into the equation S = klnW, S=0. (ln1 = 0)

There is no residual entropy when the degeneracy is 1

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Re: Degeneracy

Postby Christopher Anisi 2K » Sat Feb 16, 2019 9:12 pm

The residual entropy can be equal to 0 but the lowest the degeneracy value (W) can be is 1 and when using the Boltzmann Equation of Equation for Entropy
S =KblnW, and in this case ln1 is equal to 0 which makes the entire entropy value equal to 0.


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