Residual Entropy

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Robert Tran 1B
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Residual Entropy

Postby Robert Tran 1B » Sun Feb 09, 2020 10:55 am

What is residual entropy and how does it arise?

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Re: Residual Entropy

Postby nehashetty_2G » Sun Feb 09, 2020 11:32 am

I believe residual entropy is the energy that remains even when a sample is brought to 0 Kelvin caused by disorder in the sample.

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Re: Residual Entropy

Postby Labiba Sardar 2A » Sun Feb 09, 2020 6:06 pm

How is residual entropy different from the regular entropy that we've been using for any other problem (for example, like delta S)?

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Re: Residual Entropy

Postby Labiba Sardar 2A » Sun Feb 09, 2020 6:08 pm

nehashetty_2G wrote:I believe residual entropy is the energy that remains even when a sample is brought to 0 Kelvin caused by disorder in the sample.


What causes there to still be some energy, allowing it to have some disorder? I thought that at 0 Kelvin, all particles stop moving, therefore there wouldn't be any disorder.

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Re: Residual Entropy

Postby claudia_1h » Sun Feb 09, 2020 6:20 pm

What causes there to still be some energy, allowing it to have some disorder? I thought that at 0 Kelvin, all particles stop moving, therefore there wouldn't be any disorder.


At 0 K, there is no contribution to entropy from rotational/thermal motion. However, there is, for most molecules, residual entropy that comes from the general inherent disorder of the molecule. A perfectly ordered molecule at 0 K would have 0 residual entropy and therefore 0 overall entropy.

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Re: Residual Entropy

Postby Labiba Sardar 2A » Sun Feb 09, 2020 6:30 pm

claudia_1h wrote:
What causes there to still be some energy, allowing it to have some disorder? I thought that at 0 Kelvin, all particles stop moving, therefore there wouldn't be any disorder.


At 0 K, there is no contribution to entropy from rotational/thermal motion. However, there is, for most molecules, residual entropy that comes from the general inherent disorder of the molecule. A perfectly ordered molecule at 0 K would have 0 residual entropy and therefore 0 overall entropy.


So does that mean that ideally, there would be 0 overall entropy at 0 K, but it's more realistic for there to be some disorder for most molecules at 0 K?


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