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Postby Matthew Lee 3L » Wed Jan 31, 2018 1:23 am

For this question, we have to change use pressure instead of volume for the formlua deltaS=nRln(V2/V1) and it says we just use the inverse relationship of volume and pressure to do (P1/P2) instead of (V2/V1). Is this the only way to solve it or is this the only way?

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Re: 9.11  [ENDORSED]

Postby Chem_Mod » Wed Jan 31, 2018 8:00 am

We are not given values for V or T in this problem. Only n and P. Thus, two of the unknowns in the ideal gas equation of state PV = nRT are left unknown. The information that the change occurs isothermally is enough for us to use the formula but since we are given values of P and no way to pin down V we must use the expression which you can derive by substituting V = nRT/P for the final and initial conditions in the first expression.

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Re: 9.11

Postby melissa carey 1f » Thu Feb 01, 2018 2:07 pm

We also use P1/P2 as opposed to V2/V1 since pressure and volume are inversely related. P1V1=P2V2.

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Re: 9.11

Postby JamesAntonios 1E » Thu Feb 01, 2018 2:09 pm

Chem_Mod wrote:We are not given values for V or T in this problem. Only n and P. Thus, two of the unknowns in the ideal gas equation of state PV = nRT are left unknown. The information that the change occurs isothermally is enough for us to use the formula but since we are given values of P and no way to pin down V we must use the expression which you can derive by substituting V = nRT/P for the final and initial conditions in the first expression.


Can you derive the P1/P2 formula from the q/T formula? Or does it just come from the V2/V1 formula?


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