9.47 B

Volume:
Temperature:

Moderators: Chem_Mod, Chem_Admin

Michelle Dong 1F
Posts: 110
Joined: Fri Sep 29, 2017 7:04 am

9.47 B

Postby Michelle Dong 1F » Thu Feb 01, 2018 12:02 pm

Initially a sample of ideal gas at 323 K occupies 1.67 L at 4.94 atm. The gas is allowed to expand to 7.33 L by 2 pathways:
(b) isothermal, irreversible free expansion. Calculate deltaS total, deltaS system, and delta S surroundings for each pathway.

Why is delta S total not 0 J/K anymore? What are the concepts behind this?

Deap Bhandal L1 S1J
Posts: 77
Joined: Fri Sep 29, 2017 7:05 am
Been upvoted: 2 times

Re: 9.47 B

Postby Deap Bhandal L1 S1J » Thu Feb 01, 2018 5:02 pm

For a reversible path, work is done, so there is a q(surr) this means entropy change for the surroundings is not 0. In fact it is the exact opposite of the entropy change in the system so they cancel out and make total entropy change equal to 0. for the irreversible process no work is being done, q(surr) is 0, entropy change for the surroundings is 0, so the total entropy change is non-zero.

Sara Varadharajulu
Posts: 60
Joined: Thu Jul 13, 2017 3:00 am
Been upvoted: 1 time

Re: 9.47 B

Postby Sara Varadharajulu » Thu Feb 01, 2018 7:51 pm

delta s total will only be zero when the system is at equilibrium---for reversible isothermal expansion, it is like the system is at equilibrium, so you can assume delta s total is 0.
since part b talks about irreversible expansion, the system is not at equilibrium. this means that delta s total is a non-zero value. since delta s surroundings is 0 (bc no work is being done and change in internal energy is 0 since its isothermal expansion which means q=0 and q/T=0), delta s total = delta s system.


Return to “Entropy Changes Due to Changes in Volume and Temperature”

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 9 guests