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deltaS question

Posted: Sun Feb 04, 2018 5:13 pm
by Jessica Jones 2B
Hi! In the solutions manual I have seen them go back and forth between using deltaS=nCpln(t2/t1) and deltaS=nRln(t2/t1). I am confused on if we are supposed to be using Cp or R? or base it on the problem. Do you only use Cp when doing the (3/2*R) or (5/2*R)?

Re: deltaS question

Posted: Sun Feb 04, 2018 5:52 pm
by Masih Tazhibi 2I
The 3/2 and 5/2 is for ideal gases that have different properties. For gases that are not ideal, you use the one without Cp.

Re: deltaS question

Posted: Sun Feb 04, 2018 8:14 pm
by Sabah Islam 1G
The Cp (5/2R) and Cv (3/2R) are the specific heat capacities for ideal gases only. When an ideal gas is not involved in a problem, you would use the value of R.

Re: deltaS question

Posted: Sun Feb 04, 2018 10:09 pm
by Anna Li 2E
Also when solving equations that involve ideal gases, Cp is used for constant pressure and Cv is used for constant volume. Usually it is specified in the problem whether the ideal gas is under constant pressure/volume so substitute Cp or Cv accordingly.

Re: deltaS question

Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2018 3:05 pm
by McKenna disc 1C
The consensus appears to be that we use R for non-ideal gases and Cp or Cv for ideal gases. Should we expect to be told whether or not to assume ideal behavior for the gases in the problems?
Thanks!

Re: deltaS question

Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2018 1:28 pm
by Adrian Lim 1G
Yes, I believe most of the time, the questions will tell you whether or not it's an ideal gas.

Re: deltaS question

Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2018 9:47 am
by Dang Lam
Yes, Cp is use for ideal gas only!!!

Re: deltaS question

Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2018 4:16 pm
by aaron tang 2K
5/2 and 3/2 are used for specific heat capacities of ideal gases. For the problems in the book, you should only use Cp when dealing with ideal gases, if not, then use R for non-ideal gases