## Boiling point at room temperature

Volume: $\Delta S = nR\ln \frac{V_{2}}{V_{1}}$
Temperature: $\Delta S = nC\ln \frac{T_{2}}{T_{1}}$

Mitch Mologne 1A
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### Boiling point at room temperature

When you are finding the boiling point of water at room temperature, why do you have to cool the water back down to room temperature?

Sean Monji 2B
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### Re: Boiling point at room temperature

If you are talking about the case in which water will boil at lower temperatures due to extremely low pressures, it is more like you are trying to find the atmospheric pressure than the temperature.
Otherwise, it doesn't really make sense, since water of course won't usually boil at room temperature.

Abigail Urbina 1K
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### Re: Boiling point at room temperature

I was wondering the same question. Saw this exact same concept applied to a question on the 2015 Winter Midterm

Sean Monji 2B
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### Re: Boiling point at room temperature

If you are trying to find the boiling point of water at room temperature, the water must first be at room temperature. From there, you can calculate (I don't know how) the other various, non-standard conditions to allow this to be true, like a rapid change in pressure.

CalebBurns3L
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### Re: Boiling point at room temperature

I am also confused about this. The way that we're supposed solve the problem suggests that after boiling, the water cools back down to room temperature. Wouldn't the water just condense again?

Sirajbir Sodhi 2K
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### Re: Boiling point at room temperature

We know the vaporization of water is non-spontaneous at room temperature, so we must first heat it up to 100, boil it, and then cool it back down. A lot of the water would condense -- you are right -- but like much of what we do, this is a simplification that allows us to calculate the change in a state function (has to be a state function) that comes from boiling water at room temperature.