Adding reaction entropies

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Dakota_Campbell_1C
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Adding reaction entropies

Postby Dakota_Campbell_1C » Thu Feb 14, 2019 9:56 pm

Why do we calculate separate reaction entropies and why is that final accurate? For example in question 5 of Lydon's review packet we did 3 separate change in entropy equations then added them to get the final answer. I guess what I'm not understanding is how is the sum of those entropies an accurate representation of the entropy of the reaction as a whole?

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Re: Adding reaction entropies

Postby Chem_Mod » Thu Feb 14, 2019 10:46 pm

Because entropy is a state function and is path independent

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Re: Adding reaction entropies

Postby Raj_Bains_2C » Thu Feb 14, 2019 10:52 pm

This is because entropy is a state function, so the path taken does not matter. Just the final and initial values matter.

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Re: Adding reaction entropies

Postby Karina Jiayu Xu 4E » Fri Feb 15, 2019 10:30 pm

It is allowed because entropy is a state function. A lot of what we are working on are state functions (like enthalpy, gibbs free energy), except for work and heat.

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Re: Adding reaction entropies

Postby chris_tsai_4H » Sat Feb 16, 2019 12:04 pm

Since entropy is a state function and is dependent on other situations occurring in the reaction, we have to calculate each change in entropy separately and then add all of them together to find total entropy.

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Re: Adding reaction entropies

Postby Andrew Bennecke » Sat Feb 16, 2019 4:40 pm

An example of a state function Lavelle gave in class was going up in altitude level. To go from Altitude A to Altitude B, we could just take any combination of pathways to get from A to B. This is the same as calculating entropies, we can use a wide range of methods to obtain the total change of entropy.

Also, all the state functions we know so far fit into this acronym that Lyndon said at his review session:
I'm under PRESSURE and feeling DENSE, I just want to watch TV and have some HUGS.
-Pressure, Density, Temperature, Volume, Enthalpy, Internal Energy, Gibb's Free Energy, Entropy

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Re: Adding reaction entropies

Postby armintaheri » Sat Feb 16, 2019 8:03 pm

It's also important to remember that is not entropy of a system, but the change in entropy as a result of that reaction. So if a reaction happens in multiple steps, and each of those steps causes a change in entropy, adding all those changes together gives you the total change as a result of the reaction.

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Re: Adding reaction entropies

Postby Christopher Anisi 2K » Sat Feb 16, 2019 8:58 pm

Adding entropies is possible due to the fact that entropy is a state function and therefore is additive.

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Re: Adding reaction entropies

Postby Brian Kwak 1D » Sun Feb 17, 2019 12:54 pm

Entropy is a STATE FUNCTION. So therefore entropy is path independant meaning that you only need the final and initial values to calculate the entropy.


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