Entropy in reversible and irreversible

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Diana_Diep2I
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Entropy in reversible and irreversible

Postby Diana_Diep2I » Fri Feb 14, 2020 9:17 pm

What is the difference in entropy when it comes to a reversible reaction? Irreversible? Do we calculate it the same way using the deltaS=nRln(V2/V1)?

nehashetty_2G
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Re: Entropy in reversible and irreversible

Postby nehashetty_2G » Fri Feb 14, 2020 10:29 pm

I don't think it matters for entropy. I believe we always use the RTln(V2/V1).

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Re: Entropy in reversible and irreversible

Postby Samuel G Rivera - Discussion 4I » Fri Feb 14, 2020 10:50 pm

For reversible you would use delta S = nRln(V2/V1). For isothermal irreversible free expansion you would use the same equation. The difference is that the change in entropy of the surroundings is - delta S for reversible and 0 for irreversible.

Abhi Vempati 2H
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Re: Entropy in reversible and irreversible

Postby Abhi Vempati 2H » Sat Feb 15, 2020 12:21 am

Since entropy is a state function and the path between initial and final states doesn't matter, the entropy of the system is nRln() for both reversible and irreversible expansion.

However, as @Samuel G Rivera - Discussion 4I mentioned, the main difference is what happens to the entropy of the surroundings. For reversible expansion (which is typically isothermal), , so . However, for irreversible expansion, the surroundings don't have time to react to the expansion of the system, so . This means that .

*Note that refers to the change in entropy of the system.

Hope this helps!


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