delS at Equilibrium

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Pranav Kadiyala 1A
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delS at Equilibrium

Postby Pranav Kadiyala 1A » Thu Feb 18, 2021 10:54 pm

We say delS at equilibrium is equal to 0 because S is at a max. However, for phase changes which represent equilibrium, there is a clear change in entropy as a substance goes from liquid to gas, or solid to liquid. What is the reasoning behind this discrepancy?

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Re: delS at Equilibrium

Postby Chem_Mod » Thu Feb 18, 2021 11:07 pm

If the substance is changing phase, it is not at equilibrium. It will be at equilibrium once the process is complete

Abraham De Luna
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Re: delS at Equilibrium

Postby Abraham De Luna » Sun Feb 21, 2021 7:45 pm

when the substance is going through a phase change it is not at equilibrium.

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Re: delS at Equilibrium

Postby Rachel Kwan 1B » Sun Feb 21, 2021 7:53 pm

Is deltaS = 0 at equilibrium due to the fact that the particles are changing from liquid to gas states and vice versa at equal rates, and therefore the changes in entropy cancel each other out?

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Re: delS at Equilibrium

Postby Moura Girgis 1F » Sun Feb 21, 2021 10:24 pm

It would not be at equilibrium when changing phase, only once the process is complete.

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Re: delS at Equilibrium

Postby Sera Aintablian 2E » Tue Mar 16, 2021 1:33 am

Different phases may be in equilibrium, because the chemical potential of the components present in the system are steady with time. For example, liquid and gas phases are in equilibrium at the boiling temperature, because there are more molecules in the gas, so the gas pressure is higher and the rate at which gas molecules condense and enter the liquid is faster. They are in equilibrium with each other at a higher temperature. However, phase CHANGES do not occur AT equilibrium; entropy is present.


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