Problem with change in temperature and pressure

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isha dis3d
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Problem with change in temperature and pressure

Postby isha dis3d » Fri Mar 12, 2021 10:49 pm

If you have a chemistry problem where a gas expands in volume AND temperature and were asked to calculate entropy, would you first solve the problem using the equation for two different volumes, and then assume volume is constant and calculate the entropy for two separate temperatures and add them?

Jillian Labador 3E
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Re: Problem with change in temperature and pressure

Postby Jillian Labador 3E » Fri Mar 12, 2021 11:39 pm

Yes I believe so! I remember doing a problem like this in one of the UA sessions and we set entropy equal to -nRTln(V2/V1) + nCln(T2/T1) and just substituted the values given in the problem to solve for entropy. Not exactly sure why we would assume volume Is constant when the temperature changes though.

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Re: Problem with change in temperature and pressure

Postby Savana Maxfield 3F » Sat Mar 13, 2021 12:04 am

Yes! You are correct! You have to solve for them each separately, then add them together.

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Re: Problem with change in temperature and pressure

Postby gabbi_r2C » Sat Mar 13, 2021 12:56 am

I remember doing a problem like this with my TA and that was how we solved it. I think it is because you can think of the heating happening in one step and the expansion happening in another, since enthalpy is one of those propertied that depends on net change and not the path taken.

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Re: Problem with change in temperature and pressure

Postby Sonel Raj 3I » Sat Mar 13, 2021 1:36 am

Yeah, you use both equations, and add the two values together!

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Re: Problem with change in temperature and pressure

Postby Jarrett Sung 3B » Sat Mar 13, 2021 11:30 pm

I also was wondering this, and the answers help a lot! It's easy to get tripped up on problems like this that involve a change in two different units.


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