Spontaneous vs boiling point?






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JulieAljamal1E
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Spontaneous vs boiling point?

Postby JulieAljamal1E » Sat Feb 16, 2019 12:03 pm

In class on Friday, we covered an example that asked what temp Br2(l)->Br2(g) would be spontaneous at 1 ATM? The professor said that this is the same thing as asking what the boiling point is. Can someone explain this? I understand going from a liquid to a gas would involve boiling, but why does that indicate anything about spontaneity?

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Re: Spontaneous vs boiling point?

Postby davidbakalov_lec2_2L » Sat Feb 16, 2019 4:05 pm

The boiling point is the minimum temperature at which this reaction could be spontaneous. Any temperature higher than the boiling point, the reaction would automatically favor the gas state and be spontaneous.

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Re: Spontaneous vs boiling point?

Postby Alexa_Henrie_1I » Sat Feb 16, 2019 6:10 pm

It would be the reaction's natural tendency to go from a liquid to a gas at T=boiling point.

armintaheri
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Re: Spontaneous vs boiling point?

Postby armintaheri » Sat Feb 16, 2019 7:44 pm

A reaction is spontaneous when

for boiling a liquid, because you are putting heat into the reaction.
for boiling a liquid, because gases are more disordered than liquids.
So to make , all you have to do is raise the temperature until is more negative than is positive.
The boiling point is the temperature at which , meaning it changes from positive to negative. So this is the minimum temperature at which the reaction is spontaneous.

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Re: Spontaneous vs boiling point?

Postby Dong Hyun Lee 4E » Sun Feb 17, 2019 10:32 am

Boilin gpoint is when liquid and gas phase coexist so for the example he used would be when T=333k. If T>333K, then a foward process is favored as it was gas phas eonly and the change in s term dominates. And if T<333K then a reverse process is wanted as it is liquid phase only and the change in h term dominates.


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