G° vs G






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G° vs G

Postby Rayna Irving 2C » Sun Feb 14, 2021 9:24 pm

Quick question, how is G°different from just G?

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Re: G° vs G

Postby Chanel Mao 3D » Sun Feb 14, 2021 9:26 pm

G° is just G in standard temperature and pressure (298K and 1atm)
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Re: G° vs G

Postby Gwen Casillan 3E » Sun Feb 14, 2021 9:26 pm

Gº is under standard conditions, whereas G isn't.

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Re: G° vs G

Postby Alison Perkins 2B » Sun Feb 14, 2021 9:27 pm

ΔG = ΔG° + -RTln(Q)

The degrees on the delta G means that this is the standardized value.

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Re: G° vs G

Postby Aanya Tanti 3C » Sun Feb 14, 2021 9:29 pm

G° means under standard conditions (1 atm and 273 K) while G does not specify any conditions.

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Re: G° vs G

Postby Jerry_T » Sun Feb 14, 2021 10:18 pm

G° is simply the free energy at standard temperature and pressure, defined as 1 bar (or 1 atm) and 298K.

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Re: G° vs G

Postby 705383815 » Sun Feb 14, 2021 10:20 pm

The difference is implied in the equation. Adding RTln(Q) to the one with the degree sign accounts for the difference. It probably involves temperature and concentrations.

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Re: G° vs G

Postby Ken_Cheng_2A » Sun Feb 14, 2021 10:23 pm

The formula ΔG = ΔG° + -RTln(Q) lets you calculate ΔG from ΔG° because it accounts for deviations from standard conditions, and I guess you could theoretically go the other way around if you're given ΔG instead of ΔG° to start with.

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Re: G° vs G

Postby Jack_Pearce_2H » Sun Feb 14, 2021 10:28 pm

G° is just G but at STP (1atm and 298K). G is usually helpful though in the sense that it can be used in lab settings to determine the more "normal" free energy of the reaction.

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Re: G° vs G

Postby Katelyn_Ortega_1D » Sun Feb 14, 2021 10:41 pm

G° Is at standard temperature (which means 1 atm and 298 k)

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Re: G° vs G

Postby DavidTabib 3H » Sun Feb 14, 2021 11:12 pm

When it is G°, the conditions are standard (1 atm and 298 K)

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Re: G° vs G

Postby Meghan Krushena 2E » Sun Feb 14, 2021 11:14 pm

Dr. Lavelle's lecture slides stated that when ° is used it is referring to the state in standard conditions, so G is not at standard conditions with 1atm and 298K and G° is.

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Re: G° vs G

Postby Michael Cardenas 3B » Sun Feb 14, 2021 11:16 pm

G° is G at standard conditions, so 298 K and 1 atm, and G is not at standard conditions.

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Re: G° vs G

Postby Diana Aguilar 3H » Sun Feb 14, 2021 11:17 pm

G°is under standard conditions (298 K and 1 atm) and G is not.

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Re: G° vs G

Postby Bhuvan Kommineni 3L » Sun Feb 14, 2021 11:20 pm

G0 is G at STP conditions. Small difference!

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Re: G° vs G

Postby Nicoli Peiris 1B » Tue Feb 16, 2021 7:09 am

G with the little degree above is under standard conditions.

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Re: G° vs G

Postby reyvalui_3g » Tue Feb 16, 2021 2:24 pm

G° is under standard conditions, 298K and 1 atm.

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Re: G° vs G

Postby MCalcagnie_ 1D » Tue Feb 16, 2021 7:07 pm

G° is just at standard conditions (pressure at 1 atm and temperature at 298K), whereas G can be at any temperature and pressure.

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Re: G° vs G

Postby Karen Zheng_2K » Tue Feb 16, 2021 8:40 pm

The little degree symbol just stands for G at standard condition.

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Re: G° vs G

Postby America Alvarado » Tue Feb 16, 2021 9:43 pm

In addition to this, a UA said you would use the G° equation when the reaction you're working with is at equilibrium and the equation for G when it is not since G is the difference between gibbs free energy of products and reactants at any point.

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Re: G° vs G

Postby KhanTran3K » Tue Feb 16, 2021 9:48 pm

the delta G(0) value is just the delta G value but at standard conditions for a certain system. With this, there are different equations that we can use to relate these values. We can relate the delta G(0) value to a system at equilibrium, while we can use the delta G value in the equation, not at equilibrium (delta G = delta G(0) + RTlnQ

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Re: G° vs G

Postby jessicasilverstein1F » Wed Feb 17, 2021 10:55 am

G is not under standard conditions, whereas Gº is

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Re: G° vs G

Postby Tiao Tan 3C » Tue Feb 23, 2021 11:07 pm

∆Gº is the gibbs free energy under standard conditions 298K and 1atm. ∆G is not under standard conditions and can vary.

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Re: G° vs G

Postby Gian Boco 2G » Sun Feb 28, 2021 8:46 pm

G knot is under standard conditions

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Re: G° vs G

Postby Susan Chamling 1F » Mon Mar 01, 2021 1:40 am

G is not under standard conditions so the question may provide more information in this regard. On the other hand, Gº is under standard conditions (298 K and 1 atm), so we can typically assume these conditions.

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Re: G° vs G

Postby DPatel_2L » Sat Mar 06, 2021 6:08 pm

G° is under standard conditions.

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Re: G° vs G

Postby Susanna Givan 2B » Sun Mar 14, 2021 11:40 pm

Why is important to differentiate G from G naught? Does it affect enthalpy or entropy differently?

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Re: G° vs G

Postby Hannah Alltucker 3L » Sun Mar 14, 2021 11:43 pm

Susanna Givan 2B wrote:Why is important to differentiate G from G naught? Does it affect enthalpy or entropy differently?


I think it's important because G naught will always be the same for that reaction, since everything is in standard pressure and temperature, but for normal delta G this isn't the case, so we can't just assume each reaction will be the same.

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Re: G° vs G

Postby austin-3b » Sun Mar 14, 2021 11:45 pm

Delta G naught is standard conditions. Delta G is at any point; if equal to delta G naught, it's at equilibrium.

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Re: G° vs G

Postby tholz11 » Mon Mar 15, 2021 5:27 pm

I think of it like K and Q - G knott will be under standard conditions while G will be at adjusted conditions.

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Re: G° vs G

Postby Sara Dolmo 2J » Sun Jan 30, 2022 7:59 pm

G knot means it is in standard conditions and regular G is not


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