Spontaneity of a System






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Spontaneity of a System

Postby Bronson Mathos 1H » Sun Feb 14, 2021 10:13 pm

Hello, I am a bit lost on spontaneity of a reaction and I was wondering if someone could explain how to determine when a reaction is spontaneous in simple terms?

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Re: Spontaneity of a System

Postby Izamary Marquez 2H » Sun Feb 14, 2021 10:16 pm

I think the main relationship that we need to know is that if ΔH is negative and –TΔS is positive, the reaction will be spontaneous at low temperatures and if ΔH is positive, and –TΔS negative, the reaction will be spontaneous at high temperatures. Hope this helps!

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Re: Spontaneity of a System

Postby Sara_Lim_2C » Sun Feb 14, 2021 10:17 pm

I have a similar problem with remembering which signs are spontaneous at different temperatures, and I definitely recommend looking up a spontaneity chart! Looking at one of those helps me remember the relationships between the different values in formulas.

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Re: Spontaneity of a System

Postby 705383815 » Sun Feb 14, 2021 10:17 pm

It is spontaneous if it results in a less-energetic system. If Gibbs Free Energy for a reaction is negative, meaning that the system loses GFE, then the reaction is "favorable" or "spontaneous"

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Re: Spontaneity of a System

Postby Hayden Lee 1C » Sun Feb 14, 2021 10:18 pm

In terms of Gibbs Free Energy, a reaction will be spontaneous depending on the sign of the value of the free energy change. If the value of Gibbs Free Energy is negative, then the reaction is spontaneous. If the value is positive, then the reverse reaction is spontaneous. A negative Gibbs Free Energy value indicates that the reactants have more energy to do work than the products. Therefore, the amount of "free energy" is reduced as the reaction forms products. The opposite is true for a positive value of Gibbs Free Energy change.

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Re: Spontaneity of a System

Postby Mackenzie Stockton 2H » Sun Feb 14, 2021 10:57 pm

the Gibbs free energy change of a spontaneous reaction will be negative

g=h-t(delta)S

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Re: Spontaneity of a System

Postby Namratha Gujje » Sun Feb 14, 2021 11:02 pm

If the change in Gibbs Free energy in a reaction is negative then the reaction is going to spontaneous. You can use the reaction deltaG = delta H - T*delta S to figure out if H and S need to positive or negative for the reaction to be spontaneous.

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Re: Spontaneity of a System

Postby Danielle DIS2L » Sun Feb 14, 2021 11:46 pm

In terms of of Gibbs Free Energy, a reaction is spontaneous if the value of the Gibbs Free Energy is negative because it shows that the reactants would have more energy to do work than the products. But if the value is positive, it would be the reverse reaction that would be spontaneous.

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Re: Spontaneity of a System

Postby Xinying Wang_3C » Tue Feb 16, 2021 12:36 am

A reaction is spontaneous when delta G is negative, given the equation delta G=delta H-T*deltaS.

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Re: Spontaneity of a System

Postby Samantha Lee 1A » Tue Feb 16, 2021 8:56 am

A spontaneous reaction is when . If is negative, the reaction will form products spontaneously, without the need for additional energy to be added. Keep in mind that, although the reaction is spontaneous, that does not mean that the reaction is quick, it could be spontaneous and very slow to react. If the reaction is not spontaneous, , meaning that it will require extra energy to get the reaction to form products.

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Re: Spontaneity of a System

Postby magalysantos_1F » Tue Feb 16, 2021 9:56 am

A spontaneous reaction is a favorable reaction that requires no energy input to create products; the reaction releases more energy as heat as a result. We can usually determine a reaction is spontaneous, for example, if it is exothermic or if it has an increase in DeltaS.

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Re: Spontaneity of a System

Postby Hope Fan 2A » Tue Feb 16, 2021 10:03 am

A spontaneous reaction is indicated with a negative delta G, which usually happens when delta H is negative (so exothermic) and/or delta S is positive. A spontaneous reaction is one that proceeds in the forward direction and produces products without any energy input. As for why a spontaneous reaction is indicated with a negative delta G, a negative delta G shows that energy was released as the reaction progresses and so no energy input was required.

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Re: Spontaneity of a System

Postby Gigi Elizarraras 2C » Tue Feb 16, 2021 10:04 am

https://courses.lumenlearning.com/suny-introductory-chemistry/chapter/spontaneity-free-energy-and-temperature/

This chart really helped me understand:) the big picture is just understanding when the gibbs free energy will be negative(neg=spontaneous)

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Re: Spontaneity of a System

Postby reyvalui_3g » Tue Feb 16, 2021 2:25 pm

We can use the Gibbs free energy equation to figure out if a system is spontaneous. As long as G is less than 0 the reaction will be spontaneous.

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Re: Spontaneity of a System

Postby MCalcagnie_ 1D » Tue Feb 16, 2021 7:06 pm

I was confused on this for a while and I finally realized how simple it is recently! A very general thing to remember is that if delta G comes out to be negative, the reaction is spontaneous. If positive, it is not spontaneous.

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Re: Spontaneity of a System

Postby jessicasilverstein1F » Wed Feb 17, 2021 10:57 am

It is spontaneous under conditions that result in a negative delta G

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Re: Spontaneity of a System

Postby Carly_Lipschitz_3H » Sun Feb 21, 2021 6:02 am

A reaction is spontaneous when there is a negative gibbs free energy. This means the reaction is favorable. When a reaction is favorable, it is spontaneous, and vice versa.

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Re: Spontaneity of a System

Postby Madison Muggeo 3H » Sun Feb 21, 2021 9:50 am

Hi! In terms of delta G, a system is spontaneous in the forward direction if delta G is negative and spontaneous in the reverse direction if delta G is positive. Hope this helps!!

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Re: Spontaneity of a System

Postby Joel Meza 3I » Sun Feb 21, 2021 11:13 am

In the most simplest terms, when delta G is negative then the reaction is spontaneous and favorable in the forward direction. If delta G is positive, then the reaction is nonspontaneous and favorable in the reverse direction. You can use equations such as " delta G = delta H - T(delta S) " to figure out what the value of delta G is.

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Re: Spontaneity of a System

Postby Mikayla Kwok 3K » Sun Feb 21, 2021 12:05 pm

In the most straightforward terms, a reaction is spontaneous when delta G is a negative value. Even if a problem does not explicitly say this, there are ways you can derive this information. For instance, if the problem says that delta H is negative and delta S is positive, you know that delta G is negative based on the equation delta G = delta H - T(delta S). Given that delta G naught is negative or a small positive number, you can also predict that delta G is negative if Q is a very small number less than 1 based on the equation delta G = delta G naught + R*T*(ln Q).

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Re: Spontaneity of a System

Postby Pranav Daggubati 3C » Sun Feb 21, 2021 12:22 pm

Generally, a reaction is spontaneous if delta G is negative. Since temperature is always positive because it's in kelvins, it's just a matter of seeing how big either the enthalpy of entropy need to be in order to make delta G negative.

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Re: Spontaneity of a System

Postby Annabella_Amato_1I » Sun Feb 21, 2021 12:37 pm

you can determine whether a reaction is spontaneous using the equation ΔG=ΔH−TΔ; if the ΔG is negative, the reaction will be spontaneous because it shows that the reactants had more free energy than the products. If ΔG is positive, the reaction will not be spontaneous for the opposite reason.

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Re: Spontaneity of a System

Postby Ven Chavez 2K » Sun Feb 21, 2021 12:47 pm

For determining the spontaneity of a reaction, the easiest way to determine it is from the signs of the state functions but mainly Gibbs free energy. If Gibbs free energy is negative then the reaction can be considered spontaneous. If you're given enthalpy and entropy, then by using the equation you can determine the sign of G.

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Re: Spontaneity of a System

Postby Ivy Tan 1E » Sun Feb 21, 2021 2:51 pm

Hi!
Mathematically, a reaction is spontaneous when delta G is negative. Conceptually, a spontaneous reaction is one that can occur without energy input. For example, a block of ice melting into water at room temperature is spontaneous, but water freezing into ice at room temperature is not spontaneous. Hope this helps!

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Re: Spontaneity of a System

Postby Griffin G » Sun Feb 21, 2021 9:14 pm

Basically, use the equeation deltaG=deltaH - TdeltaS. The delta G value will tell you if the rxn is spontaneous or not.

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Re: Spontaneity of a System

Postby Sahaj Patel Lec3DisK » Sun Feb 21, 2021 9:24 pm

If delta G (not delta G naught) is negative, then the reaction is spontaneous in the forward direction. If delta G is positive, the reaction is spontaneous in the reverse direction. Hope this helps!

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Re: Spontaneity of a System

Postby MariaCassol1L » Sun Feb 21, 2021 10:31 pm

The one thing that will give you "true" spontaneity is the Gibbs Free energy of the reaction because it considers both enthalpy and entropy and which temperature that it is occurring in. Remember that elements want to inhabit the lowest energy state possible but want to inhabit more disorderly structures. Therefore enthalpy-wise, reactions that release energy (going from a higher energy state to a lower energy state) are favorable. Entropy wise reactions that go from more ordered states to more disordered states (liquid to gas) are favorable. So to deduce spontaneity you simply need to see if the reaction releases or requires energy and if it has a positive or negative change in entropy (disorder). The Gibbs Free energy equation is a straightforward way to determine which term will dominate depending on temperature because sometimes entropy change will be positive but the reaction will release energy for example.

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Re: Spontaneity of a System

Postby Lauren Sarigumba 1K » Sun Feb 21, 2021 10:52 pm

Spontaneity relates to Gibbs Free energy, which helps explain why gas expands to a greater volume when given the opportunity, for example.

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Re: Spontaneity of a System

Postby YuditGaribay3J » Sun Feb 21, 2021 11:22 pm

I like to picture the diagrams when determining the spontaneity of a system. If it turns out that Gibbs free energy is negative then we would see a fall in potential energy as the reaction progresses and heat is released into the surroundings. I picture the release of heat which makes the potential energy go down which is why it's negative. If it's positive, it is endothermic and will take in heat/energy into the system. This is why the potential energy is high. I like to picture it visually. Hope that makes sense.

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Re: Spontaneity of a System

Postby Tanner Bartyczak 1K » Sun Feb 21, 2021 11:27 pm

When the change in Gibbs Free Energy is negative, the reaction is spontaneous.

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Re: Spontaneity of a System

Postby YuditGaribay3J » Sun Feb 21, 2021 11:46 pm

To follow up with this question, I still have quite a hard time understanding how to use the equation delta G= deltaH=TdeltaS to determine the spontaneity of a reaction using the equation, especially with the temperature. Any tips?

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Re: Spontaneity of a System

Postby Charmaine Ng 2D » Sun Feb 21, 2021 11:47 pm

Delta G determines whether a reaction is spontaneous or not, and as other replies have said, you would figure that out based on the equation, DeltaG = DeltaH - (Temperature x DeltaS)

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Re: Spontaneity of a System

Postby Lung Sheng Liang 3J » Sun Feb 28, 2021 6:46 pm

A spontaneous reaction is when deltaG is negative and it does not require energy for a reaction to occur. A nonspontaneous reaction is when deltaG is positive and it does require energy for a reaction to occur.

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Re: Spontaneity of a System

Postby DPatel_2L » Sat Mar 06, 2021 6:07 pm

the reaction will be spontaneous when delta G is negative.

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Re: Spontaneity of a System

Postby Ethan Goode 2H » Sun Mar 07, 2021 3:44 pm

It all comes down to the gibbs free energy. With a negative gibbs free energy, a reaction would be spontaneous, and vice versa for positive.

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Re: Spontaneity of a System

Postby ChihWei Chen 2C » Sun Mar 07, 2021 3:56 pm

You can look at the equation for deltaG: deltaG = deltaH - T*deltaS. Since a reaction is spontaneous when deltaG < 0, you can predict the spontaneity by calculating for deltaH and deltaS and plugging in. You can also predict the spontaneity based on the signs of deltaH and deltaS. If delta H is positive and deltaS is negative, deltaG is always positive, so it is not spontaneous. If deltaH is negative and deltaS is positive, deltaG is always negative, so it is spontaneous.

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Re: Spontaneity of a System

Postby Nan_Guan_1L » Sun Mar 07, 2021 8:19 pm

the determinant really is delta G. if Delta G is negative, then the reaction is spontaneous. But you would also need to consider factors that influence the delay G, ie delta H, temperature, and delta S. remember the formula that puts these three together: delta G=delta H -T delta S

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Re: Spontaneity of a System

Postby Hannah Lechtzin 1K » Sun Mar 07, 2021 8:21 pm

The spontaneity of a reaction is simply whether or not a reaction is favorable. If you're finding this using the Gibbs Free Energy equation, then a negative delta G indicates that a reaction is spontaneous.

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Re: Spontaneity of a System

Postby FionaHunter21 » Fri Mar 12, 2021 12:49 pm

If a reaction is spontaneous in one direction is the reverse direction nonspontaneous and vice versa?


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