∆G vs ∆G˚






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∆G vs ∆G˚

Postby Bella Wachter 1A » Sat Mar 13, 2021 9:58 am

Overall, ∆G and not ∆G˚ determines spontaneity, because it takes into account Q. However, we've often used the ∆G˚ = ∆H˚ - T∆S˚and made conclusions about which temperatures a reaction would be spontaneous at. Why is it that we can do this?

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Re: ∆G vs ∆G˚

Postby Yu Jin Kwon 3L » Sat Mar 13, 2021 10:02 am

I'm pretty sure both ∆G and ∆G˚determine spontaneity (based on sign). I'm not sure if this is why you thought ∆G and not ∆G˚determined spontaneity, but if ∆G=0, then that system is at equilibrium, but this concept doesn't apply to ∆G˚. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong about both ∆G and ∆G˚determining spontaneity!

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Re: ∆G vs ∆G˚

Postby Nathan Chu 3H » Sat Mar 13, 2021 11:40 am

Yes, I believe both ∆G and ∆G˚can be used to determine spontaneity. At equilibrium ∆G is always equal to 0.

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Re: ∆G vs ∆G˚

Postby Sahiti Annadata 3D » Sat Mar 13, 2021 12:05 pm

delta G naught tells us whether the reaction is spontaneous or not under standard conditions, while delta G tells us whether the reaction is spontaneous or not under other conditions. However, they are both used to determine spontaneity.

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Re: ∆G vs ∆G˚

Postby Kaylee Messick 3J » Sat Mar 13, 2021 12:16 pm

From the textbook, it says that when ∆G˚is negative, it means that K>1, which is stated instead of saying that it is spontaneous, which I believe may be what you are referring to. This is because ∆G, as you stated, would depend on the actual point in the reaction at the time of calculating the value. I'm not entirely sure, however if both can be used to determine spontaneity as it might depend on the conditions.

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Re: ∆G vs ∆G˚

Postby Sofia Lombardo 2C » Sat Mar 13, 2021 7:08 pm

Both ∆G and ∆Gº can tell us about spontaneity. ∆Gº does so at standard conditions, while ∆G does so at any other conditions.


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