Van't Hoff Eq.


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Christina_F_3F
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Van't Hoff Eq.

Postby Christina_F_3F » Wed Mar 15, 2017 11:38 pm

For the Van't Hoff equation, we are given two different versions of the same equation:
-ln(K2/K1) = -(deltaH*/RT2) + (deltaH*/R) where one assumes delta S naught is constant
-ln (K2/K1) = -deltaH*/R(1/T2-1/T1) where one assumes delta H naught is constant

My question is under what conditions are delta S naught and delta H naught not constant? If they are under standard conditions my understanding would be that they would be constant no matter what, because they are under a set of constant conditions.

Thanks!

Christian Hardoy 3F
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Re: Van't Hoff Eq.

Postby Christian Hardoy 3F » Thu Mar 16, 2017 12:25 am

From what I understand, we aren't being given 2 Van't Hoff equations. When the course reader says, "assume delta S naught is constant" and, "assume delta H naught is constant" it is not because there are two equations where one is constant and the other is not. The course reader says this because each line is a step in writing the Van't Hoff equation in the final form that is on the last line of page 42 in the course reader. In other words, I think the assumptions are part of rewriting and explaining the Van't Hoff equation, not two distinct equations with different assumptions.

Alexia Joseph 2B
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Re: Van't Hoff Eq.

Postby Alexia Joseph 2B » Fri Feb 02, 2018 3:16 pm

From what we learned in class today, I'm assuming we only need to know how to use the equation when delta S and delta H are held constant.

Nicole 1F
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Re: Van't Hoff Eq.

Postby Nicole 1F » Fri Feb 02, 2018 3:56 pm

Can someone please explain what it means for ∆S°to be constant? I think Dr. Lavelle was explaining this at the end of lecture (something to do with the difference not changing between the two ∆S° values), but I didn't quite catch it all. Thanks!

Manvir2K
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Re: Van't Hoff Eq.

Postby Manvir2K » Fri Feb 02, 2018 4:20 pm

∆S°is constant because the difference between the two ∆S°values is the same. This is because no matter what two values are taken, the difference for both values will be the same.

Michael Lee 2I
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Re: Van't Hoff Eq.

Postby Michael Lee 2I » Fri Feb 02, 2018 7:51 pm

Both delta S and delta H remain constant from what Lavelle told us in class today.


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