Van't Hoff equation


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Van't Hoff equation

Postby Jazlyn Romero 1I » Thu Feb 18, 2021 2:34 pm

When do we use the van't hoff equation vs deltaG= -RTlnK when solving for the equilibrium constant?

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Re: Van't Hoff equation

Postby Kelly Singh » Thu Feb 18, 2021 2:52 pm

I think they're virtually the same, but it might depend on what information you are given.

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Re: Van't Hoff equation

Postby Mikayla James 2A » Thu Feb 18, 2021 3:06 pm

Hi! The Van't Hoff Equation is just derived from the ΔG°=-RTlnK equation where the standard Gibbs Free Energy equation, ΔG°=ΔH°-TΔS°, is substituted for ΔG°to get ΔH°-TΔS°=-RTlnK and then manipulated to arrive at the Van't Hoff equation. So they both should arrive at the same solution, but I think that you would use one or the other depending on the information given. Hope this helps!

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Re: Van't Hoff equation

Postby Annabella_Amato_1I » Sun Feb 21, 2021 12:57 pm

Usually you use the Van't Hoff equation if the question concerns two K values at separate temperatures. For example, you could be given a K value at one temperature and are asked to find the K value at a different temperature using Van't Hoff. Another indication that you would need to use it is if the question provides the standard enthalpy of reaction, since this is necessary for Van't Hoff but not used in ΔG°=-RTlnK.

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Re: Van't Hoff equation

Postby Yu Jin Kwon 3L » Sun Feb 21, 2021 1:01 pm

As the others have said before, you would use the Van't Hoff equation to find particularly K1 at T1 given K2 and T2 (or any derivation of that) OR you can directly find deltaH using the Van't Hoff equation given K1 at T1 and K2 and T2. The deltaG = -RTlnK can only give you a K at one T and you would have to do multiple steps to find deltaH.

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Re: Van't Hoff equation

Postby Vince Li 2A » Sun Feb 21, 2021 3:49 pm

The Van't Hoff equation allows you to calculate K at a different temperature, given the initial temperature and initial K and the final temperature. The other equation provided only helps you calculate the K, given that you know the final temperature, and the Gibbs free energy. Comparing the two, the Van't Hoff equation allows you to find K with more applicable, attainable, and measurable information, such as temperature. The other equation requires you to find the Gibbs free energy.

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Re: Van't Hoff equation

Postby Jarrett Sung 3B » Sun Feb 21, 2021 4:29 pm

The Van't Hoff equation is derived from deltaG = -RTlnK, but it's used when you find multiple temperatures and are trying to find the K value at one of those temps. Using either one just depends on the information given in a question.

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Re: Van't Hoff equation

Postby Bella Bursulaya 3G » Sun Feb 21, 2021 4:49 pm

The Van't Hoff equation is used when you have two different temperature values, and you want to find the K at the new temperature. -RTlnK is used when you want to find the K value at a specific, constant temperature. If your temperature is not changing, then you can use it.

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Re: Van't Hoff equation

Postby Shreyank Kadadi 3K » Sun Feb 28, 2021 10:54 am

The van't Hoff equation is most useful when given two different temperature values. In most other cases, both equations work!

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Re: Van't Hoff equation

Postby Gian Boco 2G » Sun Feb 28, 2021 8:47 pm

Typically use Van't Hoff when given two temperatures/two K values

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Re: Van't Hoff equation

Postby Muskaan Abdul-Sattar » Thu Mar 04, 2021 3:51 pm

I believe the Van't Hoff equation is most applicable when given two different temperatures and attempting to solve for K at one of the two temperatures. Hope that makes sense!

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Re: Van't Hoff equation

Postby Tara Cumiskey 3K » Sun Feb 13, 2022 11:49 pm

You usually use Van't Hoff when given two different temperatures.

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Re: Van't Hoff equation

Postby Debie_Morales1D » Sun Feb 20, 2022 11:00 pm

Both equations give us entropy and enthalpy, however we decide which to use based on the Information given. van't Hoff equation is best when there are two temps given.

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Re: Van't Hoff equation

Postby andreagutierrez 3K » Sat Mar 12, 2022 3:16 pm

Van't equation is typically used when trying to differentiate between two temperatures of a k value. Hopefully this helps!(:


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