Concept of "Cold"

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Mahir Pepic 3F
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Concept of "Cold"

Postby Mahir Pepic 3F » Sun Feb 14, 2016 9:25 pm

I recently read that there is no such thing as "cold" according to thermodynamics. The sensation of "cold" is actually really just an absence of heat. How then, does does adding ice to hot coffee cause it to become more cold if we are just adding quantities of substance that are close to/absent of heat?

Satyam Kotecha 1C
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Re: Concept of "Cold"

Postby Satyam Kotecha 1C » Sun Feb 14, 2016 10:47 pm

Adding ice to hot coffee lowers the temperature of the overall substance because the heat from the coffee transfers to the ice therefore "filling" in the absence of heat of the ice resulting in a decrease in temperature of the coffee.

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Re: Concept of "Cold"

Postby Aashi_Patel_3B » Sat Jan 28, 2017 7:32 pm

This is simply the second law of thermodynamics: how heat flows naturally from an object at higher temperature to an object at lower temperature. You need work to force the heat in the other direction (this is what Air Conditioner and Refrigerators do). I agree with the example stated above: it really simplifies the concept.

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Re: Concept of "Cold"

Postby Grace_Bower_2B » Sun Feb 05, 2017 11:25 pm

First of all, consider the ice the 'system' and the coffee the 'surroundings'. The melting of the ice is an endothermic reaction, it requires heat to occur, so the q of the system increases. According to the first law of thermodynamics, the q of the system = —q of the surroundings, so if the q of the system is increasing, the q of the surroundings is decreasing. Therefore the surroundings (the coffee) is cooled.
Conceptually heat and a cold are a lot like light and dark. There is technically no such thing as 'darkness' only the absence of light. Cold is merely our word for the absence of heat.

Cynthia Bui 2H
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Re: Concept of "Cold"

Postby Cynthia Bui 2H » Thu Feb 01, 2018 10:25 am

You feel cold when heat is flowing out of you and feel warm/hot when heat is flowing into you (say your hand when you hold a hot cup of tea). The temperature decreases when you add ice because heat is being transferred into the ice away from the liquid, lowering the temperature of the liquid.

Ruth Glauber 1C
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Re: Concept of "Cold"

Postby Ruth Glauber 1C » Wed Feb 19, 2020 11:16 am

Is there an example in the textbook that anyone could explain?

Katelynn Shaheen 2C
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Re: Concept of "Cold"

Postby Katelynn Shaheen 2C » Thu Feb 18, 2021 7:19 pm

Heat flows naturally from an object at a higher temperature to an object at a lower temperature. Adding ice will continue to lower the temperature of the liquid that's not surrounding the ice. Ice will lower the overall temperature of the coffee.

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