Oxidation Numbers: Provided or memorize?

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Oxidation Numbers: Provided or memorize?

Postby Arya Adibi 1K » Wed Mar 10, 2021 10:19 am

For the final exam, do we have to know all the oxidation numbers of different elements?

I know that Oxygen is usually -2 and Hydrogen is either -1 or +1, but for all other elements do we just have to know the oxidation numbers or will they be provided?

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Re: Oxidation Numbers: Provided or memorize?

Postby Sarah_Hoffman_2H » Wed Mar 10, 2021 10:32 am

I assume they will not be provided. To solve for oxidation number you use the balanced chemical equation, and assumptions for species like O and H

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Re: Oxidation Numbers: Provided or memorize?

Postby Sydney Sullivan 2J » Wed Mar 10, 2021 10:37 am

I agree with the above post -- they will not be provided. If you know the basic rules for Oxygen, Hydrogen, and ions though, you should be fine!

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Re: Oxidation Numbers: Provided or memorize?

Postby Neal_Agarwal_3B » Wed Mar 10, 2021 11:09 am

I believe that on the exam you will have to derive them your self. What I would recommend is finding the chempendix page for oxidation numbers in the sapling textbook. That page had a lot of useful rules for determining oxidation numbers in various situations. I hope this helps!

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Re: Oxidation Numbers: Provided or memorize?

Postby Samiha Molla 3G » Wed Mar 10, 2021 11:34 am

There are also super quick videos on YouTube/short reads on google if you just look up "oxidation number rules". I've found that just memorizing the few rules has gotten me through any problems that require us to use oxidation numbers!

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Re: Oxidation Numbers: Provided or memorize?

Postby Shrey Pawar 2A » Wed Mar 10, 2021 1:27 pm

I believe you have to memorize the basic Oxidation Numbers for elements like O or H which will never really have a different number besides -2 and +1, respectively. For the rest, you will just have to figure them out based on how much there is of the substance that we do have the number memorized for. Hope this helps!

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Re: Oxidation Numbers: Provided or memorize?

Postby Vivian_Le_1L » Fri Mar 12, 2021 10:14 pm

You'll probably have to figure them out yourself, but there are lots of videos on youtube that are really helpful. There are general rules to follow when trying to find the oxidation numbers, but it's pretty simple once you get the hang of it.

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Re: Oxidation Numbers: Provided or memorize?

Postby Emma Strassner 1J » Fri Mar 12, 2021 10:59 pm

Like people said, if you know the general rules about elements like O and H, you can usually figure out the other oxidation numbers from there.

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Re: Oxidation Numbers: Provided or memorize?

Postby Ivy Tan 1E » Fri Mar 12, 2021 11:32 pm

I don't think oxidation numbers will be provided. You probably have to memorize the oxidation states of common elements such as oxygen (-2) and hydrogen (+1). For other elements, you should be able to find the oxidation states given the ones you've memorized. Hope this helps!

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Re: Oxidation Numbers: Provided or memorize?

Postby Gian Boco 2G » Fri Mar 12, 2021 11:56 pm

Use the general rules for O and H as well as the charges shown and we should be fine

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Re: Oxidation Numbers: Provided or memorize?

Postby Lizbeth Garcia 1F » Sat Mar 13, 2021 12:39 am

You should be fine knowing the basic oxidation rules for Oxygen, Hydrogen and halogens. At least, I belive so since with these 3 you should be able to find the oxidation states of the other parts.

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Re: Oxidation Numbers: Provided or memorize?

Postby gabbi_r2C » Sat Mar 13, 2021 12:44 am

I think you should know how to solve for the oxidation states in a given compound. If no compound or otherwise telling information is provided, then the oxidation number itself (if not H or O, since those are common) should be given.

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Re: Oxidation Numbers: Provided or memorize?

Postby Giselle_zamora_1L » Sat Mar 13, 2021 12:50 am

10/10 recommend learning how to solve them. Its so much easier because they fluctuate in reactions

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Re: Oxidation Numbers: Provided or memorize?

Postby Karen Elrayes 1L » Sat Mar 13, 2021 1:42 am

I don't think there's a need to memorize. Just know that group one elements are always +1 and Oxygen is -2 and you should be able to figure it out

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Re: Oxidation Numbers: Provided or memorize?

Postby Jacob Schwarz-Discussion 3I » Sat Mar 13, 2021 11:12 pm

Definitely memorize that oxygen is -2 and hydrogen is 1. Besides that, you should be fine!

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Re: Oxidation Numbers: Provided or memorize?

Postby Ashley Wagner 2A » Sat Mar 13, 2021 11:15 pm

The oxidation numbers are found by solving for them using O and H. So I think knowing only O and H is ok.

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Re: Oxidation Numbers: Provided or memorize?

Postby Randi Ruelas 1G » Sat Mar 13, 2021 11:27 pm

I believe you have to know the main ones like Oxygen, hydrogen, etc. However I know that there are easy oxidation number lists on google that you can memorize for certain elements. What helps me is knowing that most of the element's oxidation numbers correspond to their charge on the periodic table, with few exceptions :)

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Re: Oxidation Numbers: Provided or memorize?

Postby Samir 3I » Sun Mar 14, 2021 11:23 pm

You are good to go if you know the oxidation numbers for the major molecules such as Oxygen Hydrogen that we saw in lecture or on the homework.

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Re: Oxidation Numbers: Provided or memorize?

Postby Edgar Velazquez 2K » Sun Mar 14, 2021 11:54 pm

As long as you know the simpler rules involving atoms like oxygen, hydrogen, etc, then you should be able to figure out most oxidation numbers. I assume they would only be provided if it's an extremely complex molecule.

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Re: Oxidation Numbers: Provided or memorize?

Postby rita_debbaneh2G » Mon Mar 15, 2021 12:00 am

I think there are some that you would just know by heart (like H or Cl for example) and others that change given the compound that they're in.

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Re: Oxidation Numbers: Provided or memorize?

Postby tholz11 » Mon Mar 15, 2021 5:09 pm

I'd memorize the following information:
1. Any pure element has an oxidation state of zero.

2. The sum of the oxidation states of all atoms forming a molecule or ion is the net charge of that species.

3. In their compounds, group-1 metals have an oxidation state of +1 In their compounds, group-2 metals have an oxidation state of +2

4. In its compounds, fluorine always has an oxidation state of -1

5. In their compounds, hydrogen atoms have an oxidation state of +1 , except when combined with group-1 or group-2 metals.

6. In its compounds, oxygen atoms normally have an oxidation state of -2 , except in compounds in which O is bonded to O (peroxides)

7. In binary compounds with metals,
• group 17 elements have oxidation state -1
• group 16 elements have oxidation state -2
• group 15 elements have oxidation state -3

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Re: Oxidation Numbers: Provided or memorize?

Postby Neha Jonnalagadda 2D » Thu Jan 13, 2022 12:36 am

Normally oxidation numbers are not provided and you can usually figure the oxidation number out from the periodic table in most cases.

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Re: Oxidation Numbers: Provided or memorize?

Postby Ruirui Lan » Fri Jan 14, 2022 9:58 pm

Hi! I think you'll be fine remembering the oxidation states of some basic elements, and for some unusual elements in a compound you can basically use what you know for the other elements in the compound to know the oxidation state of that particular element. I think for basic elements knowing +1 K Na Ag H, +2 Ca Mg Ba Cu Zn, +3Al +4 Si -1 F Cl -2 O S would be fine

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Re: Oxidation Numbers: Provided or memorize?

Postby 405490807 » Fri Jan 14, 2022 10:11 pm

You will need to memorize them but just knowing oxygen and hydrogen you should be good

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Re: Oxidation Numbers: Provided or memorize?

Postby Skylar Lo 2C » Thu Jan 27, 2022 3:19 pm

I think we need to memorize them. There're a couple that should come up frequently like H or O.

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Re: Oxidation Numbers: Provided or memorize?

Postby Sarah Hong 2K » Wed Feb 16, 2022 4:57 pm

You should know how to solve for oxidation numbers. For example if they give you MnO4-, you know that oxygens oxidation number is -2 and there are 4 oxygens so you do 4(-2) which is -8. The overall charge is -1, so you know that Mn+(-8)=-1, making the oxidation number of Mn is 7+.

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Re: Oxidation Numbers: Provided or memorize?

Postby Barbara Soliman 1G » Wed Feb 16, 2022 11:21 pm

I think we will need to know the general rules. From the general rules, you can figure out the oxidation number of any element by making sure all the elements add up to the overall charge of the molecule. Hope this helps!


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