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Sophia Dinh 1D
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negative sign

Postby Sophia Dinh 1D » Sat Mar 14, 2020 6:32 pm

why is there a negative sign in front of n in the standard Gibbs energy equation?

Jessa Maheras 4F
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Re: negative sign

Postby Jessa Maheras 4F » Sat Mar 14, 2020 6:38 pm

I believe that there is a negative sign due to the loss of energy.

Indy Bui 1l
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Re: negative sign

Postby Indy Bui 1l » Sat Mar 14, 2020 6:40 pm

I believe it has to do with the relationship between E and delta G. When E is positive, delta G should be negative meaning it is spontaneous.

Wilson 2E
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Re: negative sign

Postby Wilson 2E » Sat Mar 14, 2020 6:41 pm

Energy = -work/Charge;
Rearrange this to get work = -E*Charge
From the Farraday's constant, Charge = n*F
Therefore work = -n*F*E
At constant temp and pressure, work max = deltaG
Therefore deltaG = -n*F*E

Philip
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Re: negative sign

Postby Philip » Sat Mar 14, 2020 6:53 pm

I think it's to show that energy is release or loss

Ashley Alvarado 2C
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Re: negative sign

Postby Ashley Alvarado 2C » Sat Mar 14, 2020 8:36 pm

delta G*= -nFE
w(max)=-nFE
The system is doing work, so energy leaves the system resulting in -w.

Jared_Yuge
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Re: negative sign

Postby Jared_Yuge » Sat Mar 14, 2020 8:38 pm

When E is positive it is spontaneous, so delta G needs to be negative


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