Using partial pressure in Q


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Tai Metzger 3K
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Using partial pressure in Q

Postby Tai Metzger 3K » Wed Mar 04, 2020 12:32 pm

Hi, I was working on a homework problem and in the question we are given concentrations for aqueous species involved in the reaction and the partial pressure of a gas that is a product of the reaction.

When setting up the Q expression, should we convert the partial pressure to concentration using PV=nRT? In other words, in the Q expression, is it okay for some of the species to be in M and some to be in barr? I had thought that they all should have the same units but in the answer key it is left in units of barr while the aqueous species are in M but this does not make sense to me.

Thanks!
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Brianna Becerra 1B
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Re: Using partial pressure in Q

Postby Brianna Becerra 1B » Wed Mar 04, 2020 12:36 pm

If partial pressure is used in both the reactant and product, then converting it using Pv=nRT would make it so the conversion would not make a difference as you would be essentially canceling the conversion out.

Tai Metzger 3K
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Re: Using partial pressure in Q

Postby Tai Metzger 3K » Wed Mar 04, 2020 2:21 pm

Brianna Becerra 1B wrote:If partial pressure is used in both the reactant and product, then converting it using Pv=nRT would make it so the conversion would not make a difference as you would be essentially canceling the conversion out.


Is it okay to use both concentration and partial pressure in the same Q expression?

Lauren Tanaka 1A
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Re: Using partial pressure in Q

Postby Lauren Tanaka 1A » Wed Mar 04, 2020 7:13 pm

Yes you can use partial pressures and molar concentrations in Q. This is because partial pressures can be used to calculate the Q value as well as the molar concentrations of the reactants and products.

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Re: Using partial pressure in Q

Postby Rohit Ghosh 4F » Sun Mar 08, 2020 4:57 pm

Yes, Q and K can both be calculated either in terms of partial pressures of concentrations depending on the context of the problem.

Tyler Angtuaco 1G
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Re: Using partial pressure in Q

Postby Tyler Angtuaco 1G » Sun Mar 08, 2020 5:01 pm

Yes it's fine to have different units as long as they cancel out. I think you would need to convert if you had a situation where three species were given in mol L^-1 and one given in bar.

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Re: Using partial pressure in Q

Postby kausalya_1k » Sun Mar 08, 2020 6:34 pm

Just like K, Q can be calculated in terms of partial pressures or concentrations. Therefore there is no need to convert pressure to concentration (also because as someone pointed out earlier, using the PV=nRT will just cancel out the units anyways).


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