Orders and Graphs

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rynnma1L
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Orders and Graphs

Postby rynnma1L » Wed Mar 06, 2024 3:43 pm

Why can't you tell the difference between a first order and a second order reaction on a concentration vs. time graph?

Kyle_Phong_2J
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Re: Orders and Graphs

Postby Kyle_Phong_2J » Wed Mar 06, 2024 3:55 pm

First and second order reaction plots have different y-axes and slopes. First order reactions have the y-axis as ln[A] as well as a negative linear slope while second order reactions have the y-axis as 1/[A] and a positive linear slope.
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Re: Orders and Graphs

Postby Katherine_Davila_2F » Wed Mar 06, 2024 10:50 pm

First order reactions have a y-axis of ln[A] and an x-axis of time(s), with a slope of -k'.
Second order reactions have a y-axis of 1/[A] and an x-axis of time(s), with a slope of k.
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Shania_Jin_1B
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Re: Orders and Graphs

Postby Shania_Jin_1B » Wed Mar 06, 2024 11:36 pm

Hi! So all the other answers talked about the different linear graphs, although the first has the wrong values and second answer has them flipped. In a graph just of concentration vs. time, both a first order reaction and a second order reaction are a downwards exponential curve. The truth is that it’s very difficult to tell the difference between a - ln graph and a 1/x graph simply by looking at the shape. You would be able to tell though if you plugged in specific values to determine the order.


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