Order of a reaction


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Pratika Nagpal
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Order of a reaction

Postby Pratika Nagpal » Sun Mar 07, 2021 7:55 am

How are we supposed to determine the order of a reaction.

In the textbook, it has been stated that decomposition of N205 has a=1 and N02 has a=2. How is this obtained.

I remember seeing somewhere that an order of a reaction if influenced by the order of the reactants and products. if this is true, how are the orders of the compounds in the reaction obtained ?

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Re: Order of a reaction

Postby Vince Li 2A » Sun Mar 07, 2021 9:22 am

The order for each reactant/product is typically obtained through experiments. Looking at a table which contains the initial concentrations of the reactants/products, and the initial rates, you are able to determine the order of the reactants/products. Remember the general rate law equation, which is rate = rate constant * concentration A^n * concentration B^m * concentration C*l. To find the order for reactant/product A, you would keep the other concentrations constant, and only change the concentration of A. Looking at the table, if doubling the concentration of A doubles the rate of the reaction, then A is first order (n = 1). If doubling the concentration of A quadruples the rate of the reaction, then A is second order. If doubling the concentration of A doesn't affect the rate at all, then it is zero order. Repeat this process for B and C to find the individual orders of reactants/products. To find the order of the reaction, you just add the individual orders together.

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Re: Order of a reaction

Postby George Hernandez 3I » Sun Mar 07, 2021 9:30 am

Like the previous reply mentioned, its based on experiments. If you refer back to Lavelle's monday week 9 lecture, he shows how experimentation determines the order of the reaction.

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Re: Order of a reaction

Postby Mari Williams 1K » Sun Mar 07, 2021 1:13 pm

Will the experiments and results be likely given to us in a problem to interpret?

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Re: Order of a reaction

Postby EmilyGillen_1A » Sun Mar 07, 2021 1:19 pm

Mari Williams 1K wrote:Will the experiments and results be likely given to us in a problem to interpret?


Yes! I can't imagine that on an exam we would be given a problem where the necessary information wasn't already given to us. Doc. Lavelle mentioned it's really hard to find these values without an experiment, so on a test I feel that we would have to at least be given the results of an experiment that was done, and then the question might ask us to interpret. I would also be familiar with the graphs of each of the orders because we could also be given a problem where we have to translate the results of an experiment onto a graph.

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Re: Order of a reaction

Postby Pratika Nagpal » Fri Mar 12, 2021 9:28 pm

Vince Li 2A wrote:The order for each reactant/product is typically obtained through experiments. Looking at a table which contains the initial concentrations of the reactants/products, and the initial rates, you are able to determine the order of the reactants/products. Remember the general rate law equation, which is rate = rate constant * concentration A^n * concentration B^m * concentration C*l. To find the order for reactant/product A, you would keep the other concentrations constant, and only change the concentration of A. Looking at the table, if doubling the concentration of A doubles the rate of the reaction, then A is first order (n = 1). If doubling the concentration of A quadruples the rate of the reaction, then A is second order. If doubling the concentration of A doesn't affect the rate at all, then it is zero order. Repeat this process for B and C to find the individual orders of reactants/products. To find the order of the reaction, you just add the individual orders together.

your response was very helpful. thank you .

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Re: Order of a reaction

Postby Gian Boco 2G » Fri Mar 12, 2021 11:53 pm

Based on experiments and previous data

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Re: Order of a reaction

Postby Hasan Mirza 3F » Fri Mar 12, 2021 11:55 pm

They will likely give a chart with experimental data which you can use to determine the order.

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Re: Order of a reaction

Postby gabbi_r2C » Sat Mar 13, 2021 12:59 am

If you're given the order of the reactants, then the overall order of the reaction is the sum of those reactants' orders. ie, if [NO] is 2 and [H2] is 1, then the overall order is 3.

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Re: Order of a reaction

Postby Brian Acevedo 2E » Sat Mar 13, 2021 1:20 pm

The order of an overall reaction is equal to the sum of the orders of the individual reactants. If the orders of the reactants are unknown, you can use the method described in a previous reply to determine what they are. A good example of doing all of these steps together can be found on problem 7 of the week 9&10 sapling assignment.

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Re: Order of a reaction

Postby 305614361 » Sat Mar 13, 2021 11:40 pm

The order of a reaction is usually through experiments and I believe he also talks about in the week 9 lecture


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